What's with Hillary's hands?
After Hillary finds out about her condition, in a scene at the beach house, she's desperately looking for a picture of her mother's hands.
Does anyone have a clue on why would it be so important?
After Hillary finds out about her condition, in a scene at the beach house, she's desperately looking for a picture of her mother's hands.
Does anyone have a clue on why would it be so important?
Because her daughter was looking at her hands on the beach and said that their hands were the same.
shareYeah! Got that, but why is Hillary so affected by this that she starts looking for a picture of her mother's hands? And then she claims to be so scared. I don't understand why.
shareThis may not make much sense, but from personal and professional experience, I can tell you that two things matter most in the memory of a loved one, especially when a person is viewed in death. One is the mouth; the other is the hands. When my mother died suddenly at home one morning, the coroner came and covered my mother with a quilt so I could go in to see her. The one thing I desperately needed to see--an identifying factor, if you will--was her hands, so I lifted up the quilt and looked at her hands. They were HER hands, obviously. It's very hard to describe, but hands are a very unique identifying feature that probably stick out in the human psyche for a long time after someone is gone, just like certain memories of perfume do. And remember: Hillary's mother died when Hillary was quite young. Hillary needed to remember her mother and needed for her daughter to remember her. Hands are a strong visual trigger, and that makes sense in this way......our parents raise us with their hands, via nurturing or punishment. They're very powerful images in our memories.
shareTo alamay:
I was really moved by your post. I wish there were more like you on IMDB. How old were you when your mother passed?
I agree on this one. My mom died 5 days after my 21st bday and one of the best pictures I have of her is her hands covering mine and my sons(he was 10mo old at the time of her death). None of our faces are in the picture but it is my favorite.
shareMy perception was that Hillary was just in a very fragile state of mind, and fear overcame her when she forgot that small detail about her own Mother.
Knowing she was now facing certain death, she became panicked of the thought,
that her Daughter, too, may forget her, and small details of her.
It set her off in a panic.
I believe that in those circumstances, and under the stress a dying person must feel, it would be perfectly natural to panic about such a thing.
Oh that's interesting y'see I always interpreted it as Hillary being worried that it may have something to do with her illness and genetics. I think Hillary's Mother also died young and I thought she might be worried that if they all had the same genetics her daughter would also develop the same illness. When she found the picture I thought she discovered that her Mother had different hands, thus they wern't suffering from the same illness.
Yes, Sir I can boogie!
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Bryandemma, that's how friends and I have always seen it. We thought Hillary is in fear of her daughter having the same illness and dying young as well...the same as Hillary's mother--thus Hillary seeing if she had the same hands as her mom.
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I assumed she wanted to see if her mother had the same hands, maybe thinking that if their hands were the same that Victoria would end up with the same heart condition later in life.
shareits simple!
Hillary wanted Victoria to remember her after she was gone, every single detail about her.
Then she realized that she didn't remember her mother... and she died when Hillary was almost the same age as her daughter.
So, she was afraid that her daughter would forget her, as she did with her own mother.
That's what I got from it too. I thought maybe she was afraid her daugther was going to develop the same illness. I don't think it was ever said what Hilary's mother died of.
shareI always viewe it as her way to see just another genetic similar between herself and her mother (they both had the same disease) and herself and her daughter
(Victoria noticed they had the same hands, Hilary started thinking "If she has my hands, what else of mine --ie, the disease--will she surely inherit?")
Because by looking at the photo and seeing that her mothers hands looked differently than her own, she knew she did not inherit her hereditary disease from her mother or that it skips generations, so then she could not have passed it down to her own daughter.
shareCardiac conditions can be associated with the nail change called "clubbing"; hilary maybe had noted this about her own hands and therefore wanted to see a photo of her mother's hands to see if she had the same condition. cardiomyopathies can be congenital or genetic and I suppose she wondered if she and her mum had the same thing. Oh, and viral cardiomyopathy is a diagnosis of exclusion and is more often not fatal and tends to get better with time.
shareI didn't take it to mean that she was looking for similarities because of the illness. I took it to mean she'd forgotten what her mother's hands looked like and it panicked her because Victoria was going to lose her at a young age, the way she'd lost her own mother. The same way it can rattle someone forgetting what a deceased loved one's voice sounds like or the way their cologne smells.
If that makes ANY sense. *LoL*
Your question has me thinking about this dialog at the beach house.
CC: Listen, I know everything there is to know about you and my memory is long. My memory is very, very long.
Hillary <aside as she removes her sun glasses>: I’m counting on it.
It reminds me of Kahlil Gibran On Children from the Prophet:
“Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.”
Hillary was beginning to deal with letting go of her life and realized that the final footprints she would leave on this earth are her daughter Victoria. The hands seem to represent the continuity from Hillary’s mother, through herself, to Victoria. She found something better and more concrete in the “very, very long” memory of CC Bloom.
The final scene in the movie was the confirmation that Hillary was right.
This scene being discussed gets me every time. I end up crying like a baby whenever it gets to that part.
My mother passed away when I was just shy of my 5th birthday. And I remember very little about her. Photos (and I have to tell myself "That's my mother," when I look at them), a few old home movies (with no sound & from before I was born) and about five memories I have of her.
I do not remember her voice, her touch, her scent, nothing like that. And the memories I do have--well, I am not sure they're fully accurate since I was so young.........they could have been distorted as I got older.
But when her daughter mentions the similarity in their hands & she goes a little crazy trying to find a photo of her mother that shows her hands (since she had lost her mother when she was a young girl)..........I just break down.
I know there are those who think this movie is cheesy or a girl's only film (I'm a guy, by the way), but it really left an impact on me when I saw it way back when it was first released. I think it was the first time I really, really understood how my mother's death totally changed my life (I was around 20 when I first saw it).
Growing up, she wasn't discussed very much (my grandparents were so heartbroken over her death--they were never quite the same after) and so I didn't think much about her death. I had 2 parental figures who were always home when I got home from school and it seemed like I had a relatively stable home life.
I wasn't until around the time I saw Beaches that I really began to wonder what my life would have been like had my mother lived.
I don't really see it the same way as you guys. I don't think she wanted to make sure her daughter wasn't going to have the same illness. I think it's as simple as her wanting to remember her mother's hands. That is all. She was touched that Victoria noticed her hands, and she was frantic to remember her mother's. The reason she was scared is that she knew she was going to be gone soon.
Compelling.Brilliant.Beautifully acted. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114436/
If hands have any relevance to that particular disease, I honestly dont know about that, as before Id seen this film, Id never heard of it so didnt know anything about it, so if there is some relevance there, I missed that. I saw it pretty much exactly as Valinote did, in particular in reference to what CC said that she remembers everything. The fact that Hilarie couldnt remember her mothers hand scared her that before long, Victoria would forget those little things about her, which is why she wanted her to be brought up by CC because she knew more about her than anybody in the world, and cared about her more too. As shown throughout, CC often put her career and ambition above relationships and other people, but never Hilarie, and she knew she would never put them above Victoria either.
Oh, and I didnt so much blub like a baby at that part, but definitely the parts where CC finds the framed photographs from the booth in Atlantic City, and that last performance of Glory of Love with Victoria watching from the wings. They were the moments that more than anything backed up the hand scene.
She realized the disease was genetic.
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