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Darlene didn't deserve to leave school early.


Darlene claims she wants to run to NY to go to a writing school, before graduating high school.
I think Roseanne & Dan were right in not letting her go initially.
Darlene didn't even want to work to graduate basic high school, she was flunking out!



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Didn't he discover America?
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Really?

First off, it was sloppy writing on the show's part: there's NO such as thing as a "writing school", ever. Nor do Art Schools generally have some world-renowned "writing program", which is what this show ultimately settled on to explain Darlene's academic situation lol.

But re: your point—I actually agree w/ Roseanne—sometimes life gives you one opportunity, and you have to take it. Sure, Darlene could have applied two years later after graduating high school and still get in. But she might've lost her ambition by then.

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This always bothered me. What sort of college takes 16 year olds? In except in rare exceptions colleges don't students who won't be 18 before the first semester is over, because they want you to act like an adult and have the rights of an adult. They wouldn't be accepting all of these applications from teens who couldn't graduate. Two, it always bothered Darlene was such a great writer, but we never hear anything she wrote except for "To Whom It Concerns" which imo sucked.

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Why so hard on TWIC? Lol a homework assignment poem by a preteen...it was decent for what was supposed to be a poem by a kid who hated writing and knew nothing about poetry at the time

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I agree, the poem was pretty good.
What I hated was Darlene's delivery of it. I get that she didn't want to read it, but she still read like she had a mouthful of pralines.



I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush.

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I could see Darlene getting an early acceptance as a 16 year old if her grades were good, and her portfolio was good, and maybe she had more to show than being featured in a school presentation one time. It seemed like she was pulling her grades up after she got together with David, but not enough that it would be realistic for her to get into any college early.

Maybe it would've worked better from a logical standpoint if it had been an arts high school she and David were trying to get into. Maybe it would have a boarding program for people who didn't live in Chicago. And that would make more sense for a 16 year old with poor grades but a great portfolio to get into than it would be for her to get into college.


Darlene's one poem that we heard was pretty good for her being, what, 11 when she wrote it?

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The only art school I can think of that has a well-known writing program is Cal Arts, and even then, it's mainly because of the school's overall reputation. Otherwise, you're better off going to an actual university, which are usually much cheaper and way more reputable.

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I agree with how this was just sloppy writing. They wanted to hurry up and give a reason for Darlene's character to exit without bothering to make it at all realistic.

Even if we accept the whole fantasy of a writing school that accepts a 16 year old prior to her high school graduation, and gives her a full ride, the writers also want us to believe that they would make such an offer without interviewing her, meeting her parents, talking with her teachers, or even verifying that the work she had submitted was her own.


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Even if we accept the whole fantasy of a writing school that accepts a 16 year old prior to her high school graduation, and gives her a full ride, the writers also want us to believe that they would make such an offer without interviewing her, meeting her parents, talking with her teachers, or even verifying that the work she had submitted was her own.

Well said! I mean, there is the renowned Writer's Workshop at the University of Iowa. I'm surprised they didn't try to shoehorn that into this absurd plot. I'm glad they didn't, because it would probably seem too implausible. They never name-checked the exact school Darlene went to, which was the only smart thing the show did with this improbable plot! (Anonymous is better).

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She must've sent some amazing application to make the school look at her transcript and not think "probable dropout". It also bothered me because art schools like that are NOT well-funded programs, which makes her full-ride scholarship (combined with sh!tty grades) even more suspicious. AND they offered her a job at the bookstore! I mean, damn.

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When this episode aired I thought that was very unrealistic.

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Agreed.. BECKY deserved a scholarship to college or a job/loan situation.. NOT Darlene........... no wonder Becky ran away..

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Agreed.. BECKY deserved a scholarship to college or a job/loan situation.. NOT Darlene........... no wonder Becky ran away..


Yeah, because Becky is a dip who only wanted everything given her and wasn't willing to do ACTUAL work. EVERYBODY is expected to go to school and get good grades, college or no college, so she had to study for years like everybody else in the whole wide world, boo f8cking hoo, poor Queen Becky.

Darlene was actually smart enough to figure things out for herself and get what she wanted. She summed it up perfectly in the episode when Bev came to dinner: If Roseanne left the two of them in the woods, Darlene would find her way back home and Becky would curl into a ball and die.

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If an offer like that fell into her lap, she should be allowed to go. I just have a lot of trouble accepting the whole fantasy in the first place.


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I see your points, you made them well..

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