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Is anyone tired of watching the Halloween episodes?


I know this sounds like a "click bait" post, but hear me out! I have been watching Roseanne from the very beginning, so I have watched every episode, including the Halloween episodes for years. I have the DVDs and watch them every year, but I'll even watch them on cable for multiple viewings. It's just that I have seen them soooooo much, that a lot of the magic and originality is worn out for me.

Don't get me wrong, I will quote these episodes endlessly, and will always have a fondness for them. But it's kind of like the Great Pumpkin - I've just seen them so damn much!! Anyone else feel this way?

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I understand what you mean. Once you've seen them so many times, the charm and originality wears off a bit. I feel that way about the Simpsons Halloween episodes, too. Most of them were funny the first time around, but now I tend to skip them when watching the show on DVD.

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The problem with the Treehouse of Horrors is they're too dated. Especially the ones from 2000s on. Before, they're parody a movie like say Gremlins. It wasn't an exact remake, they threw in other jokes and their own twists. Now, they just sort of parody the movie.

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Yeah, that's sure true. We all know we're getting older when we have to explain the references to a younger person in the room when they're saying "I don't get it! What are they saying here?" (Though I guess even that works in the opposite way sometimes. I had seen the Simpsons April Fools episode before One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest so I knew immediately how that was going to end when Jack Nicholson's character said something about escaping by breaking the window with the water fountain.

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Yes, another good example. I feel that way about The Simpsons ToH episodes too!

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I prefer these to Christmas episodes, but I'll agree most of the time they're not as good as nonholiday episodes. IMO, still way better than the Thanksgiving episodes. I really don't like the last two. I also wish they would have explained how such poor people could afford elaborate nonDIY decorations and costumes. I always think of the Halloween epis when they're complaining about the mortgage/bills.

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Uh, well not to sound like a contrarian but: the only reason why you're possibly sick of the Halloween episodes is because you probably watch them too much.

And I'm not even a huge fan of the Halloween episodes. I only find half of them truly great. The other half (season 6-9 ones) were frankly unremarkable.

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Oh, I have definitely watched them too much! Haha! But I was also wondering if everyone else had seen them too much as well?The first Halloween episode (Boo) aired 27 years ago, which makes for a lot of rerun and DVD viewings. I guess everyone has a limit on how much they can watch a certain show or movie. I have probably seen the Roseanne Halloween episodes at least 30 times each (I probably watched them outside Halloween), so maybe that's my number.

I agree with you on the later Halloween episodes. Season 8 is atrociously bad, and 9 is only slightly interesting because of the Ab Fab connection. I think Season 7 is Skeleton in the Closet - that one was ok.

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No worries, I agree. I would also watch the Halloween episodes MULTIPLE times leading up to a single Halloween in one year, lol. So yeah—after a while, they lose their luster.

Re: Charlie Brown and the Great Pumpkin. I watched it this year after missing it the last couple of years—it's actually not that great lol. Story-wise, it doesn't have much structure or plot lol! It's still good, but I'm just saying: I think it's more of just our tradition and affection for the Peanuts comics.

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Peanuts if the rare exception where the Christmas episode is better than the Halloween one. I also enjoy the Thanksgiving special. The Halloween one is terrible. I think part of the reason the Peanuts special is good is because it's not about gifts or traditions. It's about children learning to respect others and appreciate the kind things we do for each other all year. It's nice to see a sweet message during a time of commercial materialism.

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Exactly, that's how I feel now with them too - obligation. Like the Great Pumpkin, it doesn't feel "officially" like Halloween until I have watched them. And yes, I wish a lot of other shows had done Halloween episodes - like Golden Girls, Friends, Will & Grace, etc.!!

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I would kill to see a Golden Girls Halloween special!

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No, but I don't watch them enough for that to happen. I only bust out the Roseanne DVDs once maybe every three years or so. I watched it so much in the '90s that I try not to wear it out nowadays.

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No, but I don't watch them enough for that to happen. I only bust out the Roseanne DVDs once maybe every three years or so. I watched it so much in the '90s that I try not to wear it out nowadays.

I go in waves too. My current period of abstaining from this show has been a couple of years now, really. Maybe even more (a few).

I rediscovered the show in 2007, watched it through 2008. I took a break, then watched it again around 2011/2012. That was the last time, really.

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Yeah, I mean I watched it in its original run, and then in syndication. Then when the DVDs came out, I would watch them pretty much on a yearly basis. Last time I did a run-through of the entire series was 2009. I plan on doing it again this year (and part of next, I guess).

The break from 2009 to 2016 definitely did me some good. The show feels fresher and our culture has changed already so much since 2009 that it's kind of cool to see how the show aligns with current times even now moreso than ever. I feel like Roseanne and the show in general don't get nearly enough credit for how ground-breaking and progressive they were.

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I feel like Roseanne and the show in general don't get nearly enough credit for how ground-breaking and progressive they were.


This is a whole topic of its own!!!!!

YES! Even something as simple as people's "Favorite TV shows" listed on their Facebook, reveals how little the public acknowledges this show! (I rarely ever see anyone list this as a favorite show—including people from the Midwest who grew up in '90s with me!!!) Which is strange, because it WAS a ratings juggernaut in its heyday, and it STILL is successful enough to air on multiple channels in syndication—twenty years after it went off the air originally. PLUS: the DVD's obviously sold very well. TV shows that don't sell well initially on DVD don't even bother having the whole series released ultimately. That was NOT the problem with Roseanne—in fact: in the mid '00s, some of the seasons were released on DVD just MONTHS apart (like, six months)—proving how in demand it was!

And yet: I agree—the public at large doesn't really discuss the show (in relation to its cultural significance and consistent durability with viewers). Sure, it rightfully shows up on "Best TV Shows Ever" lists here and there—Rolling Stone had a recent cover story on this very subject, and Roseanne placed on this list for sure.

I guess it's just one of those things. It doesn't detract from the show, and obviously the numbers then and NOW, speak for themselves. I guess it's just not a trendy thing to talk about.

On your note about it being groundbreaking and progressive: YES—especially because it wasn't just this tiny little show breaking ground on some cable network like today's shows! It aired at a time where there weren't as many channels our outlets, and therefore people actually tuned in in real time! In the early 1990s, this show was seen by 30-40 million viewers, tackling subjects like homosexuality, obesity, and poverty!!!!

This is NOT a small feat. Even today, we don't see that on this scale. See: new ways of watching TV....

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I feel like a lot of that is due to popular opinion turning on Roseanne herself. You know, because she was a very vocal and extremely flawed human being (heaven forbid!). And a woman. And as such, she's been sort of tucked away a little bit by mainstream media. It's too bad, because she busted the door open for so many people and for so many shows. Roseanne tackled many topics that other shows at the time wouldn't touch. Truly ahead of their time, and it still holds up today!

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Yup, she is a polarizing woman. That's my fate: I'm drawn to polarizing artists, lol. I'm not "basic". I like 'em loud or at least edgy and different. Hell yeah.

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Same here! And Roseanne was one of a kind. She has my eternal respect. I don't care about how many plastic surgeries she's had or how many marriages she's been through; she's a top-notch artist in my book.

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If I were to be an armchair analyst, I also think part of the reason "Roseanne" has been maligned by the mainstream now—aside from your concise and apt explanation—is our current cultural climate.

Starting in the last decade, the '00s—I feel like gloss has resurfaced into our zeitgeist. Look at the music, movies, and TV that warrant the most attention: they're largely high concept, superficial, or image-based. It's partly due to the rise of social media and reality shows: everyone's on display, so they want to put their "best foot forward". It's an image-conscious culture now. Never mind the catalytic impact of the great recession in '08. Our society bounded forward with both eyes on the mirror, for better or worse. I liken it as parallel to the 1980s—another era where we focused on glamour and flash. Meanwhile, the intervening decade, 1990s, where Roseanne was at its peak—was the opposite: it was a time where unprecedented "grit" became mainstream: Grunge and Alternative music, shows like Roseanne, The Simpsons, and Married With Children took sitcoms to a new level of irreverence and grit that the previous decade stayed clear from. As for today's TV shows? For the most part, the most popular shows are high concept—focusing on fantasy, exotic locales, or just plain out of the ordinary. Sure, there are some dialed-down shows, but they're more of the exception. Granted, I will concede that there's a "blue collar" chic only on reality shows right now (Honey Boo Boo, all those dang Alaskan family shows, LOL).

Therefore, I do think a show like Roseanne clearly clashes with today's cultural climate in the media—although, as we alluded to: it's just as relevant now in terms of society and our daily lives. It's timeless, to say the least.

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She brought a lot of that on herself though. I mean, on her blog and even in many of her public statement, she shows little respect for many of the people who probably watched her show. I love the show, so I'll still watch it from time to time and not care, but I can understand how more casual fans would be turned away from it.

That, and when a show ends horribly, it doesn't help plead its case for longevity. Roseanne suffered the ill-fate of losing popularity in its last two seasons (especially the last). You don't hear a lot about major sitcoms from the '80s and '90s. No one mentions Home Improvement, even though Tim Allen's star stayed consistent, and that show didn't even fall as much as Roseanne. Very few people talk about Cheers anymore, and that show went out on top - I met someone in their mid-20s who didn't even know what is was!

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...blog?

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This. I could deal with some of her kooky stuff, but she is a liar. Her sister said she made up that her parents were molesting them. It really opened my eyes when the sister said she is, and basically has always been, a liar. Then, she started with John Goodman when he was getting treatment for his alcoholism. Seemed like such a low blow when he never commented on all the stupid stuff she'd done through out the years.

Roseanne herself has pushed the show down, too. She wanted to be known for other things, but they all fizzled. Like her short lived talk show. Despite their vast differences, she reminds me a lot of Jerry Seinfeld. He was eager to push Seinfeld behind him, but he never really did anything great after that. IMO, just as Roseanne the person, he was the weakest link on his show.

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Only watch them at Halloween. Make them special.

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I don't watch them enough to get tired of them. I own the whole series too and this past Halloween I got them out and watched them. I find them fun to watch.

Life moves pretty fast. If you don’t stop & look around once in awhile you could miss it - Ferris

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I don't own the series on DVD, but I watch it online by means of varying legality, and I'm not tired of the Halloween episodes. There's a handful of episodes I usually skip now (the season 1 one where that door to door salesman dies in the kitchen, "Roseambo", to name a few), but it's not the Halloween episodes.

Possibly because I don't watch them at Halloween but I usually watch the entire series in one go?

But I don't know, I like all the holiday episodes. I watched the season 5 one twice in one week in November.

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