-Lex making Doomsday - like Lex making Nuclear Man
-Superman appearing at the senate - appearing at the UN
-Superman saving a Russian spacecraft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fis-9Zqu2Ro
I bet SIV ends up being better than BvS😄
Doesn't surprise me. It's actually common for hollywood people, such as the makers of BvS, to think movies like Superman IV suck, and then turn around and completely rip them off (or certain important plot lines). Happens all the time:
- Cutthroat Island was the biggest bomb of all time - yet Pirates of the Caribbean knocked it off completely.
- Kung Fu Panda ripped off Beverly Hills Ninja.
- Fast & Furious is a combo of No Man's Land (1987) and Point Break.
- The Crow copies The Wraith (1986).
- She's All That shamelessly aped 1987's Can't Buy Me Love.
- The Faculty is a crappy high school remake of The Thing.
- Chappie is a combo of Robocop and Short Circuit.
- Cars is the same as Doc Hollywood.
- Thor II copies Masters of the Universe.
- Wall-E is Short Circuit.
- Galaxy Quest is the Three Amigos.
- 13 going on 30 rips off Like Father Like Son & Vice Versa
Films that are considered failures/old/mediocre usually have some opportunistic hack just waiting in the wings to steal something from it and claim it as its own. I guess they figure that because the films were failures that it's ok to steal from it because no one cares.
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By and large you're right, but I'll say I think Three Amigos and Galaxy Quest are really both taking elements of the Seven Samurai and other stories and redoing them. Bug's Life did the same thing.
Also, other than character design I think WALL-E has little to do with Short Circuit. Minor plot points, but it's mostly different.
Yeah, I think you're right about Galaxy Quest, that is an old story that preceded Three Amigos (I think GQ took a lot of pointers from TA, though).
In regards to Wall-E, I think the character itself is just a retooling of Johnny 5. Ripping off a movie isn't always about the story or even overlying stuff so much. Like, If you watch Beverly Hills Ninja, the lead character of Haru is identical to Po from Kung Fu Panda - it's actually a joke how shamelessly they copied it. I think slyly copying things can take many forms from characters, plot, tone/style and even the full movie. It's even worse when they do it to films that are considered bad like this one.
Death by stereo
Well, it's bad in the sense they don't have permission and are being unoriginal. But, if you're going to remake something, isn't it not a bad idea to remake something that had some fun ideas badly executed than a film that stands on its own, where you're doing a total pointless repeat?
I can kind of see both sides of that one.
True, but it must add insult to injury to a film maker when a mega successful movie comes along and has stolen your core ideas that were initially dismissed as ridiculous by everybody and failed big time.
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heres all the nods/similarities to the previous Superman movies in BvS) SPOILERS obviously
-Lex making Doomsday - like Lex making Nuclear Man in Superman IV
-Superman appearing at the senate - appearing at the UN in SIV
-Superman saving a Russian spacecraft - Superman IV
-Superman 'dies' after big battle with lex made monstor/catastrophe - SIV, Superman Returns
-superman sacrifices himself with kryptonite to defeat the threat - SR
-kryptonite depowered fight before regaining powers to face bigger threat - mirrored the SR goon fight/island and SIII Clark v bad Supes/Ultimate Computer
-Superman loses powers then beaten up - SII
-Lex broke into the FOS in this film to create a cataclysmic event that kills superman - similar to him breaking into the FOS in SR and kind of doing the same.
-Nuclear rocket exploding in space - Superman The Movie / Superman II RDC
-Rocket hitting Superman knocking him out for abit - III
-"Superman dead" headline - Superman Returns
-Evil Superman - Superman III
-Superman 'dying' in space - Superman Returns
-Lois helps Superman to get out of the water, because he is weak by the kryptonite, just like Miss teschmacher does the same with him in Superman the movie (and Lois in SR)
-the S badge on the coffin looked abit like the crystalline one from the Reeve films (and SR)
-Perrys mug it was the same Daily Planet logo as the Reeve films (and SR)
-Lois needs a helicopter to rush to Gotham city to retrieve the kryptonite spear. Perry White loosens the purse strings and has a chopper pick her up on the roof of The Daily Planet (a la Superman's debut in Donner's classic 1978 film)
-When Martha Kent asks Batman "Who are you?" He says, "A friend of your son's." - When Kidder's Lois asked Reeve's Superman "Who are you?" he said, "A friend."
Superman IV fixes BvS :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZdcBjwrkl4
I don't care what anybody says, I fully believe the Wachowskis saw ROBOT HOLOCAUST (1986) before writing THE MATRIX. There may be a little OVERDRAWN AT THE MEMORY BANK (1983) in there, too.
http://www.freewebs.com/demonictoys/
The Matrix is a lot like this as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeJgK0PTGp4
Death by stereo
Thor II copies Masters of the Universe.
also SPOILERS if no seen BvS yet:
-Superman 'dies' after big battle with lex made monster
Yep you nailed it!
MOS was a rehash/rip-off/retread of Superman II, and BS was a rehash/rip-off/retread of Superman IV. David Goyer can't help himself. He couldn't come up with an original plot if his life depended on it.