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Bending the barrel makes no sense


I am kind of sick of these movie (and even comic book) fakeries, where someone is shown to be 'strong' because they can bend metal or whatnot.

When you think about physical properties, or what would REALLY happen, these things neither look real nor make much sense. Some examples:

- The Terminator (1984) has a 'very tough' future metal robot being crushed, but it looks like soft material just compressing, instead of hard metal CRACKING, like it should. Think about compressing a brick or a piece of glass - would it just softly flatten like a pillow, or would it just CRACK into little pieces? It looks so fake for this reason.

- The Matrix (1999) has people punching brick walls, but those bricks are clearly thin and lightweight, so it doesn't look real. Same with the 'pre-crumbled wall' and 'pre-broken toilet' - it doesn't look like Morpheus's head actually breaks the toilet, as it doesn't break as it hits it, etc. These would look better if they looked heavy, as if they have actual weight.

- Wolverine using his 'adamantium claws' to just easily slice 'weaker metal' like butter, whether it's a bank vault-type structure or a ship wall. Physics don't work like that. No matter how sharp your claws are, or how 'unbreakable' they are, you can't just easily slice metal like hot butter - you would need CONSIDERABLE force to even do that, and even then, it would be slow and you would have to keep beating it and.. I can't even calculate how wrong it is to show it like that.

- The 'bad guy' bending supposed 'metallic bars' (this always looks so fake) in 'Fist of Fury (1972)' - it looks like he's 'bending' some rubber hose, it doesn't have the weight or the resistance metal would actually have. Couldn't look more fake if it tried.

- Robocop (1987) bending the barrel of the gun, without affecting the stance, hold, creating any big force or anything - as if the gun barrel itself is just some very weak material, instead of looking like Robocop is strong. If he was bending some very tough metal (which would probably break rather than bend, but whatever), it would be like wrestling the gun OUT of the robber's hands, wouldn't it?

I mean, if Robocop exerts THAT much force on the gun, the gun would just TURN instead of the barrel bending, unless the robber HOLDS IT WITH EQUAL STRENGTH so the barrel can bend - and that shouldn't be possible, especially if we want to show off how strong this Robocop is, should it?

So the gun should just TURN instead of bending, and there's no way the robber could hold it so strongly that the barrel would get a chance to bend. The gun would be out of the robber's hands long before there's enough force for the barrel to bend. This makes it look rubbery and fake.

I am so sick and tired of moviemakers thinking 'this is good enough', although the end result looks fake, and nothing like it's supposed to. Couldn't they have bent some real metal and somehow superimposed this or whatnot even back in the day? With computer graphics, surely something better than what we see in movies could be done? But laws of physics are always ignored.

A bonus point, when a human being is shot full of bullets, would it REALLY squib like that? I mean, a bullet ENTERS te body, that kind of large caliber bullets shot at that range by such a powerful robot gun would probably penetrate fully and come out at the back. This means the BACK should 'squib', but not the front.

Is this supposed to somehow show that if you cut a vein, it will splurt blood everywhere?

Of course it's impossible to know what would -actually- happen, because this kind of situation would be most unethical to reproduce, except with a dead body or a fake body, which would never be quite the same. Maybe in a war situation with some kind of camera just happening to capture something like this it could be seen what would really happen.

But just thinking how a bullet enters a body, it doesn't seem logical that there would be such 'squibs' in the front. I've seen the video where a guy shoots the mouth of his body's head, and it doesn't squib like that, he just has a.. let's say, 'pretty severe nosebleed' afterwards.

Could we some day see a movie, where laws of physics are actually respected, or someone's (or some thing's) strength is shown in a way that actually LOOK realistic? If you carry something supposedly heavy but it's NOT actually heavy, the viewer can INSTANTLY see it. (That's why Michael Richards wanted to carry an actually heavy cardboard box in Seinfeld, in the episode where they are in the parking hall or whatever it is)

Movies treat viewers like we're dumb kids, who can't understand what's real-looking and what's faker than heck. Not sure how fake heck actually is, but it's kinda difficult to research.

I am sick of being treated like someone that can be fooled by such simple trickery as using lightweight, easy-to-break things in the stead of actually heavy, hard-to-break things.. do better, movies!

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You need help because I read a few lines of this and can tell you're bored and put entirely too much thought into any of this to the point of ruining any enjoyment from these films over something as trivial as what you're implying..

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