Dick Jones admits he killed Bob Morton, despite actually KNOWING he is being recorded.
And when Robocop shows the footage, there was still little he could do as his programmed prevented him from arresting Dick. If Dick just left things alone, OCP would probably erase Robocop's memory and Dick would be in the clear. But no, he had to take his boss hostage, getting himself fired, allowing Robocop to kill him.
Murphy was glitching out over the Directive 4 business, so Jones probably thought he wouldn't be able to record the confession.
Also, it always seemed to me like The Old Man never got over the ED-209 fiasco and was still pissed at Jones. And Murphy had just told him he can't arrest an OCP exec, so he figured this would conveniently take care of Jones and keep the company out of potential Morton scandal.
That's my take on it anyway.
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I've seen villains get beat loads of time because they didn't know their confession was being recorded. But confessing when you actually know the enemy could be recording it is a whole other level of stupid.
As for the Old Man, Dick Jones had no real way of knowing he would sell him out. If he just left things alone, he might have gotten out of it. But taking his boss hostage guaranteed he is definitely screwed.
Also he decided to use live round to demonstrate ED-209, which got someone killed.
Good point, but I think he reckoned ED-209 was powerful enough to destroy Robocop there and then. Dick's overconfidence in his creation is basically his downfall all throughout the movie.
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His creation can't tell if a gun has been dropped, can't use stairs, doesn't know what stairs are, etc.
That is some level of confidence Dick has.
I posted on a different thread his other major mistake was this: OVERCONFIDENCE in Boddicker and his gang, he took it as a given that they would succeed in killing Robocop.
What he SHOULD have done is call in sick or something and go WITH the gang, "supervise" them. He should have had one of those guns too.
He was just going about his business in that office with no fear that maybe the villains would fail, yet ED 209 and the police force Robo faced after both failed so how could he have still been so confident?
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He was overconfident that he was going to kill Robocop right then and there. Take a look at how shocked and panicked Jones was when Robocop got away.
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I am not sure I am glad he was killed at the end, I kind of prefer him being in prison for the rest of his life getting repeatedly gang raped and abused and bullied by the other inmates.
shareNo that would have been suitable for Boddicker. His death was over too quickly and he deserved to live and suffer. Preferably being beaten to death by cops and the relatives of all the cops he killed.
shareIn the original script, Boddickers death was going to be more gruesome. But Orion didn't allow it so we got what we got.
shareI remember reading the official novelization back in 1987 and he got DECAPITATED his head cut off but the movie had to be toned down to get the R rating because it was so violent it was in danger of an X rating which is usually meant for porn movies.
I can accept a movie being toned down from X (or NC17) for R. As much as I hate it I will make that concession, since those ratings keep a movie from making good money they are the "scarlet letter" of the movie world.
However, I have no respect for A$$hole$ who tone a movie down to avoid the R rating and pass with PG13. It ruined the remake and it ruins ever series that does it, especially when earlier installments are rated R.
This has happened with Terminator, Die Hard, and Alien Vs Predator and it really Pi$$e$ me off.
It actually is rated X. The theatrical version was edited to get it to an R rating. Too bad the original death scene with Boddicker wasn't filmed. You can see the rest of the edited out gore in the X rated video release.
shareHe said he would have gotten a military contract on his product and that he didn't care if it worked or not.
That's stupidity right there, obviously your product needs to be good if you get the contract.
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You completely missed the point. He immediately sends ED-209 out to destroy him after he admits to killing Bob Morton.
He didn't think he was gonna survive. Robocop already knows Dick Jones is a bad guy because Boddicker ratted him out so Jones' only option was to kill him.
What about when he pulled a gun on his boss, getting himself fired so Robocop could kill him?
I don't give a f*@K about a troll who doesn't pay for his opinion telling me how to review movies.
Do you think he knew the old man was gonna "fire him" in the midst of that chaotic and panicky situation? The reason it works so brilliantly is that once it unfolds, it immediately seems so obvious but it's really not. No viewer in their right mind could've foreseen the old man suddenly shouting out "Dick, you're fired!" Especially, Dick Jones. Not even Robocop is thinking, hey all this guy has to do it fire him and I can blow him away.
I mean that writing in that scene is so brilliant. The payoff is beyond satisfying. It's funny, it's witty, it's smart.
There's a reason why Robocop is the classic that it is. There's a million syfy/action robot movies that come and go. The characters and the writing in Robocop is what really makes it hold up. It's very layered and their's a ton of subtext and metaphors going on besides that fact that it's just an incredible action movie.
I mean I'm not saying Dick Jones is the smartest villain ever. He's not Lex Luthor but dumbest villain ever? Not even in the top 100. He's smarter than 75% of the James Bond villains alone.
Bond villains have more sense than him. He's on my list of 12 dumbest villains along with Dr Light from Flash, Riddler from Arkham, Frieza, General Katana, Gretchen Morgan, Harry Mudd, Kurt Hendricks, Glenn Talbot from the 2003 Hulk, the Joker from Arkham, the Shredder from the new Turtle films and Vincent Moore.
I don't give a f*@K about a troll who doesn't pay for his opinion telling me how to review movies.
Have you ever seen the Sean Connery or Roger Moore James Bonds?? lol Austin Powers has some of the most amazing jokes based on how stupid the Bond Villains are for instance just never killing Bond when they have the chance in almost every movie.
At least Dick Jones attempts to flat out destroy Robocop when he has the chance.
My list of dumbest villains doesn't focus on the cliché stuff every villain does but on the REALLY dumb stuff these villains do.
I don't give a f*@K about a troll who doesn't pay for his opinion telling me how to review movies.
I slightly agree on your point about his admission to committing murder to a cyborg that he knew could record his every word. However, someone on here already addressed that maybe Dick Jones thought Directive 4 was preventing Robocop from using any part of his programming software to record him.
"If Dick just left things alone, OCP would probably erase Robocop's memory and Dick would be in the clear. But no, he had to take his boss hostage, getting himself fired, allowing Robocop to kill him."
Um, how could he have left things alone if Robocop had footage of him admitting to committing murder ? Jones obviously realized he was screwed when the old man reacted in disbelief to what he did to Bob Morton. Even if Robocop couldn't have arrested him at that very moment, he would have been a fugitive of the law. The police would have eventually picked him up.
The old man was very enthusiastic of the Robocop program as it was successfully cleaning up crime in old Detroit and making his vision of Delta City a reality. With Bob Morton gone, he had to rely on Jones's failed ED-209 project. You can see the old man's lack of enthusiasm with the project.
Did you miss the part where Directive 4 no longer applies after The Old Man says the magic words "You're Fired!"
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Plus, he leaves the video disk in the player and walks out. Of course, the house explodes, but there's a very good chance that the disk itself could be salvaged, with Dick's confession at the scene of the crime.
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