I think the predator technically killed an unarmed opponent. When Mac was crawling face up, underneath those tree logs. It didn't look like he had his weapon on him. Hence he couldn't fire back when the predator pointed his laser scope at him. Which obviously goes against their code of honor.
shareno. mac's face was a lethal weapon.
one look can kill from this fugly specimen.
but regardles of macs not haviing his main weapon (M60E3 machine gun), all commandos carry combat knife in sheath situated on body. they also have survival knife. pred could see this on mac with his combat vision.
so if fugly trooper is crawling slow toward your position with combat knifes on body, then you know his intention are to kill and thus this hideous commando is fair games for pred to kill as he is armed.
Aside from the obligatory ๐ I would like to add that if Mac was still carrying his army knife. By Predator "code of honor" he should have faced Mac with his wrist blade (like he supposedly did with Billy). Instead of pulling an Indiana Jones.
My best friend speculated that the Predator saw him as a legitimate threat because of that weapon you mentioned.
you make good point. on old imdb forum there used to be big group of action film fans who discuss things like this on predator movie message board. i remember they discuss "honor code" you mention and expose it.
basically the conclusion many come to is that predator is a pussy:
1. the pred hits blain (who is armed with m134 mini gun) from behind with laser. he hits blain when he is not looking, above and behind. sucker punch! pussy!
2. in predator 2, the pred trys to set off his nuclear device when he knows he is beaten. again, a pussy! he try to rage quit because he knows he is going to lose to inferior opponents - we all know peoples like this irl and we hate them
c. in pred 2, the pred jumps danny in penthouse when he just looking around. again a no good pussy wuss who has to startle and scare someone off guard before he attack. another mega pussy
Ahh! Good old IMDB. Remember those days? Many's the time they would go on and about on whether The predator's hunted for honor or glory.
On to your points!
1) I respectfully disagree that the Predator was a "pussy" on his chosen hit and run tactics (same way how I disagreed with that one YouTuber that claimed the predator's beam cannon was a "bitch weapon"). Like I told my brother, regarding that scene with Blaine. The predator wasn't stupid. He was obviously aware that Arnold's team was patrolling the area and didn't have enough time to perform an elaborate kill. As soon as Blaine's body hit the floor, Mac was right there face to face with him and yelling for backup. He was also aware that it would have been suicide to face Blaine head on. If he suddenly decloaked and approached him straight up with his wrist blade. He would have undoubtedly been ripped to shreds with the minigun. Hence, his options were limited. All things considered.
I think the first hit that left Blaine disorientated may have been a warning shot. A small chance to turn around and fire back. Still not necessarily fair but I'm trying to rationalize things from their POV.
2) I actually posted a similar comment, here! As to why the predator would activate his self destruct device whilst hanging on the ledge with Mike. If by doing so would likely implicate the death of neighboring unarmed civilians. He probably figured that he was going to lose and thus needed to destroy the evidence. So whatever casualties that came from the result could be chalked up as collateral damage.
Rage quit! ๐
3) I'll admit that he caught Danny boy off guard, like Hawkins in the first one. But noticed that he didn't kill him until after he opened fire? Much like the first one, when he had his laser scope on Dillon but didn't make a move till he showed a willingness to fight back. Which makes it "fair game" according to their code of honor.
Also keep in mind that the predator from the second one was supposed to be a rookie on his first hunt. Which is why he made a lot of mistakes throughout. Like leaving his shit laying around and allowing others to use it against him.
you make some good point here that i never think about before, jpsteveshanahan.
1. yes, if predator take on blain head on in fair fights, then blain's m134 mini gun will turn this wannabe hunter into mince pred-meat. no wonder he sucker punch peoples. the big pussy stand no chance. his camouflage and laser is supposed to be leveller. retard come half way from across universe to hide in trees and run away like a noob.
which begs question, why does this predator even bother? if he afraid of commandos when he got lasers and cloaks, just hunt lions or something if your scared about your prey shooting back. wuss.
2. the predator in predator 2 - the city hunter aka "pussyface" was supposed to be much younger and more wilder predator than the one in predator 1 - the jungle hunter aka "anytime". pussyface would jump into middle of room full of heavily armed goons, like colombian scorpions or jamaican voodoo pussys, and he would shred them to kingdoms come. he was more bad ass than "anytime" - and had more balls.
however, because "pussyface" was younger and inexperience, this may play into his rage quits. he too young to know what to do when he losing battle and he panic like a bitch. he about to kill 1 million unarmed peoples when he set off nuke, so he is breaking the rules. that blast would also take out pred spaceship and kill his comrades, so they would be pissed.
3. yes city hunter did not kill danny until he pulled out his piece. however this is like pushing someone and then when they push you back, you pull out rocket launcher. pussyface does same thing to king willie - willie was just relaxing in that alley with his kfc bones and pussyface cut his head off. this man had no code of honor. at least "anytime" follow his code.
in conclusions, "anytime" follow the pred code but was real wuss. "pussyface" was braver but did not follow code. this is why both get themselfs killed while elder predator on spaceship last into old age.
Thanks for the compliment. You made some good points too.
1) I got nothing! But didn't they hunt dinosaurs back in the day?
2) I'd argue that the Predator from the second one was more reckless than its predecessor. Not necessarily more ballsy. And while these gang members may have had more firepower. They were also obviously less trained compared to Arnold's elite special forces unit. So this is probably a case of quality vs quantity.
I don't think that blast would have wiped out the entire city. Just the immediate vicinity. Enough to cover his tracks.
3) I didn't think of it that way. You're saying that the Predator provoked Danny boy into opening fire? So he basically pulled a Han Solo ๐
And I think he was going after Mike, not necessarily KW. But when the Predator realized that he just missed him! He settled for King Willie's head.
your welcome steves
1. yes. in pred spaceship they have large trophy cabinet and there appear to be a huge monster that look like t-rex, or something close. so pred hunt huge monsters across galaxy.
2. yes this is good point. i think city hunter "pussyface" is reckless as well. he may not be brave, but it take more guts to jump into middle of room with heavily armed goons than it does to sucker punch elite warriors like "anytime" do. both have there faults though which is why both end up pwned.
yes i think pred's self destruct would destroy "300 city blocks" according to keyes in predator 2. if you add fallout, many people would die in socal regions. although with the nuke in predator 1, dutch survives despite being max 100 yards from blast point.
3. yes steves hahah. pussyface is like han solo, although han was getting that bounty hunter before he got han - pointing gun right at him, while danny was just trespassing in penthouse. maybe pred have honor code of no tresspassing? and he must enforce this?
4. no i think the pred had come specifically to that alley to get king willie - he follow harrigan there but when he see willie, he know who willie is.
willie mentions "the spirit world" and that he can "feel predator all around". pred is the same - he feels willie, he knows willie is vicious hunter of humans, a head cheese, a lion in that jungle - he knows those were willie's goons in the penthouse and they were evil. willie would be big trophy for pussyface.
1) There's a fan theory circulating that the Predators were the real reason dinosaurs went extinct ๐
2) The hell did Arnold survive a mini nuclear explosion!? The radiation alone should have killed him.
3) ๐
4) I prefer when the Predator is presented in a supernatural aura. In the form of a demonic entity, as described by Anna and Billy in the first one. Or the aforementioned king Willie and Leona in the second one. "You cannot see the eyes of the demon. Until he comes calling". Easily the best line in any Predator movie. Sounds like something Dahlia Gillespie would say to Harry Mason in SH1. When she would go on and on about how the town is being devoured by the "darkness".
You're the first person person to just call me "Steve's". Most just butcher it or are unable to pronounce my username and just call me "JP" ๐
1. yes i can see this. although i doubt predators have been kicking ass and taking names for 65 million year. that is long time to be giant pussy hiding behind cloaks and sucker punching prey when they dont look and then rage quits when they beat you. i think monsters they hunt come from far off planets and not pre history earth
2. yes. this is mystery. it must have been a weak blast that did not quite get enough power to explode properly because dutch is at that blast points. there might be blast setting on pred's wrist device and you can select "wuss blast" option which instead of destroying 300 blocks only destroy 1 or 2 and "anytime" just chooses this because he just want to take out him and dutch, and not citys.
4. yes i agree. well said steves. predator 1 and 2 do well to show predator as supernatural, like demon entity who haunt people from netherworld. what is SH1? they always play this great music when they talk of mystery surrounding pred and it give me chills at how much it make this think of this unseen demon wuss : https://youtu.be/ugGCk9KEd4w?t=42
yes i had difficult looking at your name and i think i see your name in there. shanahan? are you from emerald islands? this is great place.
1) You sure like using the word "pussy" an awful lot! Don't you!? ๐
2) I believe this to be case with it's beam cannon. The impact of the blast can be moderated accordingly. This explains why Mac's head exploded but Poncho's remained intact.
Inconsistencies notwithstanding ๐
3) Was specifically referring to Silent Hill. Don't know if you're familiar with that game franchise (my favorite horror franchise). Well! In the first one. The protagonist (Harry Mason) is lead on a wild goose chase by the town's cult leader (Dahlia Gillespie). She goes on and on, about how the town is being devoured by the darkness. I can so imagine her borrowing that quote from King Willie during one of her ominous rants.
Thanks for taking the time ๐ I'm actually from Puerto Rico. Not that far from North Carolina. Relatively speaking.
Are you ou from there?
1. hahahah yes this is true steves but i guess i take after hawkins and his pussy jokes in P1 and harrigan calling city hunter pussyface. that, along with predators hiding up in trees, give the pred films strong pussy theme.
2. yes i suspect this too. but then again, the only reason keyes know about pred self destruct device is that he and his OWLF butt boys all personally go down to val verde jungle and measure size of pred's blast zone which is how he know it is "300 city blocks" - so this blast wave was at full power and not chickenshit setting when dutch survive.
i can only assumes you can survive this blast as long as you do dramatic run and jump like dutch do: https://youtu.be/8dUpZVH6lKE?t=343. << this technique must be taught to all future pred pwners in case they wussy out when you beat them and you have to survive blast.
3. that film sound interesting steves, pred vibes. i have not seen silent hill but i will put it on my watchlist on my imdb profile page. any pred fan have my respects so if you recommence this then i will check it out thanks.
4. that is good steves i have not been to puerto rico or north calolinas but it is my ambition to visit america as long as i dont have look at fugly woketards. no im not from there, im far away hahah
1) ๐
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3)Umm...actually! I was referring to the original game franchise developed by "Team Silent". Don't waste your time on the movie adaptations. They suck!
4) That explains your liberal language ๐ Like, seriously! You can't say anything in America these days without someone getting offended. Whatever happened to free speech? Just the other day my account was put on 24 hour block because I typed "1984 bitch!" Even though I was merely pointing out a video that made reference to that specific year (my birth year). I didn't say it with malicious intent, nor was it aimed at anyone in particular. This is exactly what I said to YouTube when I requested an appeal. It's refreshing to know there are still SOME servers that aren't as uptight about voicing one's opinion As long as it isn't ill intended, obviously!
Where you from if you don't mind my asking
Again! With the narrow ass space เฒ โ _โ เฒ
3. oh i see haha. well i do not play video games apart from soccer ones. i play more rpg's when younger and i have more free times.
4. yes youtube have been taken over by woketards. i was posting lots of comments on youtube and pwning woketard like there's no tomorrow but then i realize no one reply anymore. i check my comments and they still there, but then i log out and re-check comments and they all gone!
you do not even have to say something mean or swear to have your youtube comment blocked. they block anything they think might offensive to woketard philosophy. these idiots must be stopped.
i live in alexandria but have not lived here all life.
What a peculiar username by the way! I'll just call you "Bob barbeque" ๐
sharedo not worry steves i do not have body odor. if you are big fan of predator 2 then you will know this line - detective jerry lambert (bill paxton) say this line in predator 2 when describing smell of slaughterhouse that he track city hunter to. just call me BO.
shareI didn't think he was vegetarian ๐
shareMac had faced the Predator and shot at him, so he was marked as prey, just like Poncho. The fact that he no longer had his weapon was irrelevant. The Predator was finishing off his kill.
shareInteresting way of looking at it. One could argue "why did the Predator go after Poncho, after he was already wounded and seemingly unable to defend himself?" Well! Considering that his injuries were sustained during the hunt. That probably still made him fair game, according to the Predator's code of honor.
shareSteve Perryโs novel describes how Yautja view humans. Itโs credible, if not canon:
The creature moved slowly toward him, hands out.
Ooman!
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But this small creature did not seem particularly threatening, even though he knew the stories โฆ Oomans were supposed to be cowards, sneaky, deadly when cornered, but seldom stand-up face-on fighters.
What's the name of this novel? Is "Ooman" how the Predator's describe us?
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Yep
https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Aliens_vs._Predator:_Prey
I skimmed the novel at Borders and the ending always stuck with me
TLDR: human scientist teams up with yautja hunter to fight xenomorphs, and when the yautja dies, the human takes his place in his clan
Thank you for sharing that link. The plot sounds similar to the first AVP movie. Where they join forces to fight the remaining Xenomorphs in that one place beneath the Antarctica ("the enemy of my enemy is my friend"). Coupled with her "christening" in the end.
By the way! Didn't you get in trouble for "skimming" at a local book store? Used to do the same myself! Back in this now defunct supermarket franchise, whilst going over the pages of "GamePro". Remember those day!? ๐
Iโm pretty sure Mac had a broken Bic razor in his pocket.
shareReally!? ๐
shareYes! Remember, he broke it in his face during guard duty one night?
shareI thought you were just messing around! ๐
Would the Predator actually consider that as a legitimate weapon?
PS: The scene where he snapped his razor blade on his face was when they were waiting for the Predator to fall in their trap.