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Plot Hole possible previously discussed

posted 15 years ago by StunningStephen
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Do not get me wrong, I love this movie and I know that finding a plot hole in a film where monsters are running wild is uncalled for...

However, when Dracula gets the crates from the plane, the pilot opens the hatch releasing the crates and Dracula turns into a bat and flies out. The entire time the hatch is open, there is direct sunlight hitting Dracula. The very next scene the kids mention that sunlight (Daylight says Horace) will kill Dracula.

Also, was anyone else upset that the monsters died so easily... Mainly the Mummy and the Creature. Also, when Sean picked up the stake and stabbed Dracula, that was a bit easy. Forgive me for being so picky on one of my favorite, yet unrealistic, movies ever.

Mr. Blonde

[–] turock 14 years ago

I can only speculate here so here goes.

Id guess that maybe Dracula has different abilities in different forms.

As a man hes all but invincible but as a bat he is not impervious. Maybe his bat form affords him protection from sunlights harmful effects.

I get what your saying about monster deaths, but it was a kids movie, its not like they could have hacked the Mummy up. As for a lot of Mummy stories it usually involves a talisman to control said Mummy. What with the search for the one that will open the vortex they didnt have the time to track down another much older talisman.

The creatures death I just forgot about so i cant comment on it. The warewolf was killed a bit simplistically, but it was also done before bullet time and slow motion cinamatography. Now a days I suppose the kid would have had to fire all but the last shot just to hit the Wolfman.

As for Dracula, I get what your saying, but it was a kids movie back before epic fight scenes became the norm. Back when it all came down to chance LOL.

Any who hope this helps though it is just speculation. :)

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[–] StunningStephen 14 years ago

Hey there, Turok! Thank you for replying! I guess there isn't a lot of action on the Monster Squad board lol. I do understand what you're saying about it being a kids film and that the deaths couldn't be too adult. I like your point about bullet time lol. I will be curious for the remake.

Just to remind you, on a side note, the creature came from the sewer and Horace shot him with a shotgun.

Thanks again for the reply!

Mr. Blonde

[–] BlueDevilReviews 13 years ago

Kids movie?! Rudy impaled a bunch of vampire girls very graphically
and Dracula called a little girl a bitch!
I don't think a mummy being bloodlessly ripped apart is a big deal.

[–] diddymuck 14 years ago

Good point about drac. Actually I thought the Mummy's demise was unique...and strangely logical...just unwrap him and his dead bits and pieces will fall apart.

[–] boxcar_josh 14 years ago

I bet your friends don't even want you to move in with them. Whiner.

[–] Rey_Kahuka 13 years ago

Actually, they ask for the two ways to kill a vampire. I always thought Dracula was a bit tougher because he's a celebrity vampire, lol.

Sunlight doesn't kill him, and neither does a stake through the heart. Notice how he's still struggling with Van Helsing in limbo even after being staked by Sean.

I thought the Mummy died a fitting death as he was a weak villain as depicted in this film. Gillman was useless as well, so a shotgun blast is more than enough to take him out.

Dracula and the Wolfman were tough SOBs though, each one needed to be 'killed' several times before finally being dispatched. And again, Dracula isn't even dead as far as we can tell.

[–] StunningStephen 13 years ago

That's a really good point. Thank you for replying. I do think it is one of the coolest portrayal of Dracula. I didn't think about him evolving past certain legendary ways to be killed.

Mr. Blonde

[–] reaseltbim 11 years ago

I wrote on another thread something similar,
But to me it felt like a joke on the original movies. If you think about it the Gillman was just an animal, and Mummy was a walking corpse. I think, to me, it felt like the reason they were killed so quickly was because they were making fun of how easily they could be killed today. (or 20 years ago I mean)

Wolfman Did get blown up and came back, so he doesn't count as being killed easily. He also took down a bunch of cops...just saying.

The Mummy, well, He didn't even do anything in the movie if you think about it. He didn't have any powers or anything.

Dracula, I think the reason Sean stabbed him so easily is that Dracula didn't care about anything but dragging Sean with him into the Vortex.
I mean, he grabs Sean but it didn't seem like Dracula was trying to save himself or stop from being dragged into the vortex. It looked to me like all he wanted was to drag Sean with him, I guess he wasn't paying attention when Sean stabbed him.

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[–] Dream_Demon 11 years ago

As for Dracula surviving sunlight, it should be stated that in Bram Stokers' novel all vampires (not just Dracula) are not harmed by sunlight. Instead, they're stuck in their current form until nightfall (i.e. if Drac was in mist form at dawn, he'd be stuck as a cloud of mist until dusk.). It should also be stated that Bela Lugosi's version of Drac (which this movie's version is clearly based off of) does not appear to be affected by sunlight in the original movie (I'm not so sure about the sequels though). BTW, it's the movie Nosferatu (itself a copy of Bram Stoker's Dracula) that created the "vampires are harmed/killed by sunlight" trope, not the Bela Lugosi version of Dracula anyway. Either way, the real plot hole is that Dracula shouldn't be able to transform into a bat in daytime rather than be destroyed in sunlight.

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[–] Jeorj Euler 9 years ago

As for Dracula surviving sunlight, it should be stated that in Bram Stokers' novel all vampires (not just Dracula) are not harmed by sunlight. Instead, they're stuck in their current form until nightfall (i.e. if Drac was in mist form at dawn, he'd be stuck as a cloud of mist until dusk.). It should also be stated that Bela Lugosi's version of Drac (which this movie's version is clearly based off of) does not appear to be affected by sunlight in the original movie (I'm not so sure about the sequels though). BTW, it's the movie Nosferatu (itself a copy of Bram Stoker's Dracula) that created the "vampires are harmed/killed by sunlight" trope, not the Bela Lugosi version of Dracula anyway. Either way, the real plot hole is that Dracula shouldn't be able to transform into a bat in daytime rather than be destroyed in sunlight.

Thanks for posting this, Dream_Demon.

[–] TheFatDruidofNacyl 9 years ago

I've seen version of vampires that based on how old or powerful they are could resist sunlight longer.

I also remember the scene from "Hotel Transylvania". Dracula doesn't want to go out into the sunlight but ends up turning into a bat to catch the plane. He is being burned but is able to survive for a little while. Perhaps it just takes a long time to kill him with sunlight so he can fly as a Bat.

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[–] StunningStephen 9 years ago

Thanks for the reply! I suppose the kids are just mentioning ways they heard in stories to kill Draculas. It may not be accurate in their "Real Life" portrayal in the film.

[–] RBM05 9 years ago

Didn't take it as a plot hole. They just had no idea what actually killed these monsters, only what the movies and comics told them. Some were real (silver bullet for Werewolf) and others weren't (sunlight).
The one plot hole I did see was the third "Bride of Dracula." She was never killed. Rudy struggled with the second one and ends up on the ground, and they just completely skip the third one. The scene cuts to Dracula as a bat and that is the end of it.