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In this movie Airplanes move at the same speed as horses 😂 Yes HORSES!!

posted 2 years ago by FootOfDavros (8171)
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I found this quite amusing as Timothy's films are usually lauded by some as more grounded in the same black and white grimey toilet style as Daniel Craig's "Bond" films.

However, in this we see Bond taking off in a plane - leaving his future Taliban horse riding buddies long behind at the airbase. He then proceeds to reunite with his missus, go to disarm his bomb, then get involved in a long, drawn out fight with the recycled FRWL villain. He then gets back to the cockpit in time to avoid a mountain his missus was inexplicably flying them straight towards only to instantly spot his terrorist pals are right below them!!

How can this be possible? Plot hole or were these magic horses?

[–] millsey72 (10283) 2 years ago

Afghanistan horses are the fastest in the world. I'm surprised you don't know this. Also the airplanes were loaded with heavy bombs so that slowed the speed a bit. Hope this helps

[–] FootOfDavros (8171) 2 years ago

You raise an interesting point.

Whilst technically you could argue that some horses could move faster than some smaller planes - and surely some of those old black and white ones which involved cycling and always crashed - the plane featuring in The Living Daylights was a Lockheed Hercules C-130 cargo plane (*1).

The stalling speed of this aircraft is noted at 115 mph (*2) which exceeds the top speed ever recorded for a horse which is 55 mph (*3). Therefore it is impossible that the horses seen in this film could keep up with that particular plane.

I think this leads us to conclude that what is witnessed is what is technically referred to within film pedantry circles as a "plot hole".

1. https://boldentrance.com/the-living-daylights-old-school-miniature-effects-helped-give-the-hercules-cargo-plane-sequence-an-epic-scale/

2. https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1060445/pg1

3. https://horseyhooves.com/how-fast-can-a-horse-run/

[–] millsey72 (10283) 2 years ago

Thanks for clarifying. I thought for sure Afghanistan horses could run at least 90 MPH

[–] FootOfDavros (8171) 2 years ago

No, you were mistaken there for sure.

However, some planes CAN travel at less than 55 mph, so therefore you can take solace in the fact that your mental reasoning wasn't completely bonkers.

Some horses can indeed travel faster than some planes. Just not the combination we witness in this particular film. Hope that helps 👍.

[–] millsey72 (10283) 2 years ago

Yes this helps. I would hate to post something that may look completely bonkers

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

You do that all the time.

[–] millsey72 (10283) 2 years ago

I recall a post from you on here, and I'm paraphrasing, but you said Biden is doing a better job as president than Trump. Nothing I ever posted was as bonkers as that comment

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

And almost every comment you've made says that Trump was a better president than Biden. Nothing I ever posted was as bonkers as that comment

[–] millsey72 (10283) 2 years ago

My post was factual. Your post was bonkers

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

My post was factual. Your post was bonkers

And for crying out loud, millsey72, DO include a full stop at the end of your last sentence. I hate copying your stupid grammar.

[–] Rusty (548) 2 years ago

You also have to factor in that Kara was flying the plane and bungling it at every turn, she probably went in circles (cue Dalton’s exasperated face)

[–] AndyKing1967 (38134) 2 years ago

Wait! What? Women flying planes?

[–] millsey72 (10283) a year ago

Thats illegal in Afghanistan

[–] AndyKing1967 (38134) a year ago

Should it illegal worldwide.

[–] HellFire (561) 2 months ago

Who are these people who say Daniel Craig's Bond films are more grounded? I like a couple of them, particularly Casino Royale but Craig is actually one of the most outlandish Bonds.

Off the top of my head
Survives falling from the sky without been splattered when he opens a parachute literally just a couple of seconds before landing.

Fights in a burning building full of flammables without blowing up.

Gets shot from a train, lands in the water and doesn't drowned even though he's unconscious.

Gets his skull drilled and just carries on functioning normally afterwards.

And some people say Roger Moore was ridiculous😂