So part 3 never happened? - Jaws: The Revenge (1987) Discussion

[–] cadeis-1 14 years ago

Oh and as I recall in part 3, Sean was a fat cowboy who runs off with Lea Thompson, after she's is bitten by the shark in that film.

But in part 4, totally different Sean. Totally different situation.

Sorry you can't just skip over stuff once it's out there. It looks stupid to the Jaws fan base.

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[–] avex_13 14 years ago

3rd wasn't good, but 4th is one of the worst craps I have ever seen.

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[–] Dinodak 14 years ago

Jaws: The Revenge beats the *beep* out of Jaws 3. They both might have sucked, but Revenge sucked a lot less.

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[–] Fallchildrenx 14 years ago

revenge was the first movie i ever saw in theaters, so i'll take it over jaws 3. but in reality, come on...were either anything to write home about?

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[–] Dinodak 14 years ago

Definitely not. However, The Revenge had more going for it than 3D did. Sure, the shark cruising to the Bahamas? Laughable.

But 3D simply felt like a horrid TV movie. The characters were horrible, the direction was simply confusing, the underwater shots were mind-numbingly bad. The score was horrible. I could go on.

Revenge featured a prominently roaring shark and a stupid plot, but that's about it. Everything else, executed or not, was miles ahead of 3D. Amity was back, Lorraine Gary was back (and played her part well, I always thought) and the characters felt much more genuine than 3D's. Mike and Sean actually felt like Mike and Sean, rather than disposable characters I could care less for in 3D. Michael Caine was just a treat to have, regardless of his stupid name.

I also loved the score. The underwater shots were beautiful and effective. The opening was fantastic. The return of characters such as Mrs. Taft, Kintner, Polly, etc. were welcome treats. Everything in Revenge felt much more like a Jaws movie than the very disenfranchised Jaws 3D, which feels like a cheap TV spin-off with bad production value.

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[–] dart85 10 years ago

ugh, that's a horrible memory to have, sorry to hear

Personally I think Jaws 3 was at least written better, and Louis Gossett Jr provided good comic relief. Don't forget the 3-D element!

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[–] Mitchcraft 10 years ago

Jaws: The Revenge beats the *beep* out of Jaws 3. They both might have sucked, but Revenge sucked a lot less.

Completely agree, at least the acting in The Revenge was not as cheesy as 3.

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[–] chantelbabyxoxo 9 years ago

lol yep. icam on that one avex13

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[–] masterjedi-2 14 years ago

That's exactly what I wondered. Part 3 was about the Brody boys. And part 4 was ridiculous, not to mention that the Mike had a horrible Northeastern accent.

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[–] whitespirit26 14 years ago

I didn't even know the family was IN Jaws 3. This one was a lot better than Jaws 3, though the latter film's good for an entertainement flick.

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[–] movieperson113 14 years ago

It does prove that Brody's kids can't hold on to their women.

Mike loses Donna Wilkes then Bess Armstrong.

Sean had Lea Thompson...

What gives???

Oh and Sean (J:3 D) wasn't chubby. It was those early 80's pants that were too tight. lol

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[–] jasoncampbell05 13 years ago

I suppose since it is technically called "Jaws-The Revenge" instead of "Jaws 4" this gets around the fact that they totally ignore the events of "Jaws 3". JTR had all the ingredients to make a very decent sequel, but I think studio involvement hindered the production. Plus, Joseph Sargent was a very capable director so I have to believe that he didn't have final edit approval and the studio went and changed the ending very quickly and with little to no additional funds. I think that while the whole shark follows them is stretching things, it could have been made to look less cheesy.

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[–] movieperson113 14 years ago

It does prove that Brody's kids can't hold on to their women.

Mike loses Donna Wilkes then Bess Armstrong.

Sean had Lea Thompson...

What gives???

Oh and Sean (J:3 D) wasn't chubby. It was those early 80's pants that were too tight. lol

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[–] Reel_Big_John 14 years ago

Part 3 was much better than part 4. It had that Australian photographer who was a mix between Hooper and Quint, and some great scenes all together. Better ending too.

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[–] supertrick_05 14 years ago

I thought that Jaws: The Revenge was better than 3D for the facts that were mentioned before...it just felt like a Jaws movie with a bunch of returning characters that weren't really "in" the movie, but if you noticed, it was a cool effect. The shark was the least realistic in this movie, basically because it looked like a chunk of shark-shaped foam (which it probably was...the other sharks had a smooth, glossy sheen, like a real great white shark), and the shark following the Brody family all the way to the Bahamas from the New York area, which was ridiculous. But all in all, this was much better than 3D...although I still watch 3D if I'm bored.

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[–] 06986 14 years ago

I just saw Jaws the Revenge and thought it was not as bad as I had originally thought, it was definitely better then the hokey 3rd one. I thought the opening with Amity during Christmas time and most of the characters except Brody was done very well and it had the feeling of the first 2 JAWS films that the 3rd one lacked. The going to the Bahamas and the shark following was pretty corny but Michael Caine and the rest of the cast were decent. It would have been interesting if Roy Sheider did the 4th one but have it set in Amity around Christmas.

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[–] mikej327 13 years ago

Jaws 3 > Jaws 4. Period. It's not even debatable.

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[–] dustin565 13 years ago

Yeah it is, part 3 was boring as hell. Shame, it could've been the best sequel because the plot was great. I only have three problems with Revenge, the parts where the shark looks fake (faker than usual I mean), the roaring, and the whole New York travelling to Bahamas thing. Just about everything except the plot in Jaws 3 was terrible.

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[–] Durham_christine 9 years ago

Australian photographer who was a mix between Hooper and Quint, and some great scenes all together. Better ending too.

You really don't know accents, do you. That guy was 100% British, not Austalian.

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[–] SippingJetstreams 12 years ago

3 had potential to be a good stand alone movie not tied to the franchise if they took it seriously

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[–] McFly_2015 12 years ago

I don't understand it either; in fact they even marketed the 4th film as the final in the 'trilogy'

Would include the 3rd not add to the 'revenge' plot? It was hinted at in the 2nd film (that shark avenging the first one). Having a shark attack the brody's at sea world and then attack amity again would at least make that plot more conceivable.

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[–] Dinodak 12 years ago

McFly,

A final film in a trilogy would be the third film. They marketed Jaws The Revenge as the final part of a trilogy. Not a sequel to an already established trilogy. Common sense. It's been confirmed that Jaws 3D was completely disregarded and is no longer canon.

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[–] rikajessie 11 years ago

I think it's kind of silly to disregard a movie as canon just because it wasn't well received. Neither was this one, so are they going to say this isn't canon either?

No matter how bad a movie is, I like continuity and if there is a movie in that franchise, it has to be counted, imo.

I don't like Indiana Jones and Kingdom of The Crystal Skull and neither do a lot of Indy fans, but, it is canon whether we like it or not.

And I actually liked Part 3. It was cheesy and silly, but it had it's exciting moments and some cool characters as well as a unique storyline for the Jaws series. I also liked Mike better with Kathryn than with Carla.

I just think they could have at least kept Mike to be doing the same job he did in 3, or at least acknowledge that job, and they could have had him married to Kathryn and just recasted the part, they recasted Mike, so they could have recast Kathryn. In fact, Carla looked like Kathryn.

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[–] Tyypo 10 years ago

I definitely liked J3 more than The Revenge, while acknowledging that it was not a good film. It was campy fun when I saw it in the theater in 3-D back in the day. Revenge, or IV if you will, was Star Trek V bad. Maybe even Catwoman bad. As such, not worthy of recognition in continuity/canon. Catching a batch of them on AMC today, but have seen all multiple times in past. No one should be bothered by the actor changes of Mike and Sean; they were played by different actors in every single film.

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[–] rikajessie 10 years ago

I don't really mind them changing actors if they had to, like if Dennis Quaid wouldn't do IV, but it seemed like they de-aged Mike and Sean and that's what bothered me about the recast. Also, I felt like Dennis Quaid looked more like the teenage Mike.

I know the plot of 3 was rather silly, but I didn't think it was any more silly than IV and I liked the cast better, I felt like the film had more heart over all.

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[–] Tyypo 10 years ago

The plot (and execution) of Jaws IV was nothing short of ridiculous. I cannot even believe it was made, it rises to such a level of absurdity. There is probably a missing scene somewhere where Mrs. Brody wakes up from a dream, sort of like the last Newhart episode. It should have been picked up by MST3K. The biggest problem in my estimation with J3 was that it was so boring for long stretches at a time.

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[–] rikajessie 10 years ago

When I was a kid, I always found part 3 pretty exciting but I can see what you mean now. I still think overall it was a better film than 4, but what isn't, right? lol

I'd rather think of 4 as a nightmare too. I didn't like them killing Sean, and I preferred the other actors as Mike and Sean than those in 4.

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[–] wallacesawyer 11 years ago

It's been forever since I watched this one, but didn't Mike say to hi mom "there's never been a Great White where we live". But maybe he's lying or just forgot about the Great White shark that attacked Sea World.

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[–] CharlesVariations 10 years ago

This movie makes part 3 look like a great movie.

At least the 3rd one was dumb B-movie fun with a huge Godzilla-esque shark, Jaws 4 is just painful to watch though.

Only people with money say that money doesn't matter.

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