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Couple of questions for you

posted 19 years ago by imdb-kue
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What rank was Steven Weber .... Worcester in the movie

and what issue of Playboy was that they were drooling over.

In alot of ways this movie was better then Platoon, seemed much shorter though

[–] ringneck 19 years ago

I have that issue somewhere, I think its like Dec 1968. I didn't see the quotes in it that they use from the Playmate interview, so either they made that part up or its from another issue.

Not sure abotu his rank. Was it SFC? I say that because I think Franz was an E-6

BL

[–] imdb-kue 19 years ago

Yea I found out that girl is from Dec 1968 issue, Cynthia Myers 39DD :o

http://tokyotopless.com/media/PlaymatesHistory/CynthiaMYERS/photo/view/CynthiaMYERS.01.05.jpg

The reason I asked about Weber is that he was ordering everyone round even the Lt. but I presume thats because he had the most combat experience.
Quite a death scene he makes, what was his fatal injury - grenade or some sort of blast ?

[–] Master_Lo 19 years ago

Back in the days...

http://www.harpers.org/art/cartoons/mrfish/IraqiBoy_526x528.jpg

[–] hswitzer 19 years ago

What exactly is the point of the cartoon? Decent artwork I guess, but paints a demented and unrealistic view of the average coalition soldier.

Is the point just that you hate soldiers and are to prejeduced to discuss a soldier in a movie, therefor you will just atemnpt to take a crap on the thread?

[–] Master_Lo 19 years ago

No, I'm not taking crap, It's just the pic of nowadays propaganda, or how it would look like if it were...

Don't take it serious

[–] rangerzep83 18 years ago

My ex-father-in-law carried her centerfold in his helmet for most of his first tour. lol

[–] soruht 17 years ago

I'd hate to shine a blacklight on that today.

[–] ringneck 19 years ago

Yeah, basically Worchester takes alot of the lead in the field is time in country allready. The LT had more control than the movie shows, he was doing more stuff prior to operations while he gradually got the feel of things through Worchester--remembr the LT's as green as Languilli, Ski, and hte other guys who showed up at the same time, he's just had more stateside training.

He does seem a little weak though, maybe to over emphasize the point of his and Worchester's command relationship.

The old saying is true though that Segeants run the Army....

BL

[–] hswitzer 19 years ago

Worchester was an SFC (Sgt First Class) or E-7. Franz was a Staff Sgt or E-6. These are the peacetime TOE ranks for the position of Squad Leader (Franz) and a Platoon Sgt (Worchester) From what I have read it would be odd to find people of the right rank in those positions at this time in the war.

Eden actually plaid the Lt well, doing exactly what he should have been doing. Mostly listening to the Plt Sgt. In the end he really seemed to be becoming a good officer.

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[–] OCOKA 18 years ago

In wartime, it's true that junior NCOs oftentimes took up the slack for leadership position in units due to casualties and personnel shortages by assuming positions usually one grade/billet above their actual rank/billet, e.g., in the Army, an E-4 cpl/spc assuming a team leader/ASL billet as an acting E-5; an E-5 team leader/ASL assuming a squad leader billet as an acting E-6 SSG; an E-6 SSG assuming a E-7 PSG billet in an acting capacity. With pin-on rank though, it's all quite obvious.

[–] jbraptor 19 years ago

He's the platoon sergeant, McDermott is a squad leader.

[–] OCOKA 18 years ago

In the Army, PSGs are E-7 (SFC) and SLs are E-6 (Staff sergeants). For USMC, they're one grade lower for each respective position.

[–] krispykremepunk 18 years ago

He was the Platoon Sergeant. My uncle was a Plt Sgt in Vietnam, and from everything he's said and I've read, this movie has one of the most accurate depictions of a platoon sergeant, he was the one in charge of the platoon, usually b/c of how green the Lt's were, but also b/c he was the intermediary for facilitating what the Lt and other officers wanted to do to the squad leaders, who would in turn pass the info down the line to the members of their squads.

[–] rwsmith29456 13 years ago

Put your butt in the jungles of Vietnam for about a year and see if you don't drool over the Dec. 1968 issue of Playbody.