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How can you idiots think this was a direct sequel?

posted 14 years ago by surfingthechaos
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IMDB is truly a breeding ground for stupidity.

Yes if you wanted to disregard the first fifteen minutes you could pretend that it took place after the first film, but that isn't the way they filmed it. Yes I understand why they chose to film it the way they did, but that is irrelevant.

The start of Evil Dead 2 does not recap the events of Evil Dead 1. Going to a cabin with one person is not the same thing as going to a cabin with five people. They are two different scenarios. What is so hard to understand about that?

You could say that the first segment of Evil Dead 2 is a remake of the first while the rest is a semi-sequel. You could say that the second film is a sequel that takes place in an alternate timeline. You could even just repeat to yourself "it's just a show, I should really just relax". You CANNOT, however say that Evil Dead 2 directly follows the events of Evil Dead 1. It does not. This is not up for debate.

In any case Evil Dead 1 sucks anyway. Evil Dead 2 is best taken as the first in the series. That 2 in the title is just one of those quirks that makes this movie such a unique and wonderful part of cinematic history.

[–] sdwilson79 9 years ago

I take it that Ash has come back with a 'sacrifice' in order to kill what he couldn't finish the first time, or if he was possessed at the end of ED1 he goes away to bring back fresh meat.

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[–] mgsgamer2009 9 years ago

You guys are obsessing over something that really is not that important. Did you ever think to consider that maybe the recap had only two people because they were the two characters that were important to leading into this film? If they had shown all five, that would make the recap longer, seeing as they would have the show each person's death when there is no mention of the other three thought the movie. All we see are ash, and his girlfriends head, and later, necklace. In my opinion, that is the reason for the recap showing only two characters.

Run time, budget, and other factors could also be the reason.

[–] sir_striker886 9 years ago

Agreed. I posted others on it. Why the hell would Ash go to the same cabin and play the same Panasonic player with the book that wasn't burnt? His GF in the second one was darn hot though. The series to me is omitting Army of Darkness since he has no mechanical hand and does not mention it. Even between Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness the plot changes or so it seemed to me.

What I see is that they are taking Ash's attitude from Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness. Keep the chainsaw and drop the mechanical hand. To come up with the true bad ass. Just watched the start of Evil Dead 2 to confirm somethings. And yeah he treated his girlfriend with some balls out confidence. lol

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[–] sir_striker886 9 years ago

They do use the same bridge idea so there is no escape. Just figured it was the same cabin or appear as such.

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[–] MrsBuckyBarnes 9 years ago

If Sam Raimi stated this is a sequel then all good, but I don't perceive it that way. After all he went through why would Ash go back to another deserted cabin and dally with a book of the occult? After the other three showed up wouldn't he mention to them that his girlfriend and other friends died in similar circumstances?

I see this as a remake. I'd others see it as a sequel that is fine with me. As long as we all agree that this is a great film.

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[–] MrsBuckyBarnes 9 years ago

it has been many, many years since i have seen the evil dead. did it show that he had lost his memory in that film? if not, then that is supposition.

i think it would be useful to tell other people who are being terrorised that it has happened before. it would help them to try and make sense of their situation, and they may then want to ask ash if he could remember anything else that could help them to survive.

i can tell you now, i am not getting into a back and forth about whether evil dead 2 is a sequel or a remake. i see it as a remake, and that is that, but if others see it differently then i don't see the need to try and convince them otherwise. i wish others would take the same approach.

[–] Dan_Garten 9 years ago

I love this debate. 

[–] revterry 8 years ago

I have a few things to add to this very dead horse.

1.Take two of these and call me in the morning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eyFjcXZP7A https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreliable_narrator

2.For your own good, do not ever watch The entire Highlander franchise your fragile, sacred sequel definition will suffer greatly. Every one of those movies (and show) are sequels and constantly disregard or add info to the last movie. (but are not half as good as Evil Dead's sequels).

3.As the poor Star Wars fans have learned, what the directors(creator, writer, etc.) says is canon. No matter what you think.

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[–] cokedalek 8 years ago

Just because they don't show the other 3 people in the recap doesn't mean those events dealing with them didn't happen. The opening shot of Ash and Linda in the car by themselves COULD have taken place before Ash picked his friends up.
The scenes of Ash and Linda at the cabin was pretty much like the first movie....the others were nowhere to be seen in the original movies version of these scenes

[–] CriticalCatalyst (115) 4 years ago

The movie is a remake, plain and simple. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot. I don’t care what Sam Raimi says, have you ever considered that maybe he said that to mess with viewers??

1. Why would Ash go back to the same cabin after everything that happened in the first film?
2. When he finds the tape recorder and the book he acts like it’s the first time he’s seen it.
3. If he knew what the book and the tape recorder contained (and if it’s a sequel, he would) then wouldn’t have touched either with a ten foot pole.
4. Does the bridge magically repair and destroy itself when it’s convenient for the story.

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

So you didn't get it. What a surprise. I ban you from imdb message boards!