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Nazi armbands at the beginning...


We see them in a scene when Jim is riding his parent's car. A few people pass by the car wearing nazi armbands. Are they supposed to be western Nazi sympatizers...in a British colony?

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It wasn't a British Colony, it's the International Settlement in Shanghai, where the (effectively white) foreign population lived. This meant that Nazi Germans and Fascist Italians rubbed shoulders with enemy British and French, while neutral Spanish, Portuguese and Americans looked on. Just about every nation on earth in 1941 was represented in the International Settlement, with the possible exception of the Soviet Union.
I would recommend the book 'Secret War in Shanghai' by Bernard Wasserstein which puts EOTS into historical perspective. The truth is much stranger than fiction.

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Thats something new and informative. Thanks, I'll look up the book.

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Shanghai was for a time the only place in the world that unconditionally offered refuge for Jews who were escaping from the Nazis.

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So what happened to these Germans and Italians? Were they under some kind of illusion that the war wasn't comming to them? Were they rounded up and repatriated or sent to some camps?

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According to the book, the Italians were rounded up in 1943 when Italy surrendered to the Allies and the Germans ditto in May 1945. After that point the only whites left free in Shanghai were the effectively stateless White Russians, the exiles left over from the Russian Civil War, and the Jewish population who saw themselves as temporarily stateless as well.

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The nazi armbands visible were worn by Hitler Youth members. There was an overseas department for the HJ (Hitler Jugend) to serve Germans not residing within the borders of the Reich.

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I think I missed the armbands all three times I saw this film ...


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They are there for 2 seconds.

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Do you have the precise time stamp/point of reference as to when they make an appearance?

If so, I would appreciate you sharing it here .

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It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing .

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Watch when they are driving to the costume party through the chaos of the street crowds. It's in there with the nun, drunk sailors, the beggar boy who chases him later on, and the bloody chicken slammed against the car window.

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Understood .

When I next put on Empire of the Sun, I will be certain to pay extra attention during that span of time.

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It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing .

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