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elevators, fans, the bowl

posted 11 years ago by RoyHobbs
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Elevators are easy I guess.

The fans? They never spin when Cyphirs is around. Is this part of his damnation? No cooling permitted? I malfunctioning fan seems to indicate his presence.

The bowl? Soul collection? I don't know.

[–] tenantennae 11 years ago

Actually, the fans always start running when something evil happens, and when he first meets Harry in the office, several fans are turned on. I guess this to keep the fiery devil cool? It's a pretty silly gag when you think about it, but I like it.

[–] fiatlux-1 11 years ago

I think this is to merely 'tell the audience' that Johnny's evil is present.
Remember when they showed what Johnny had attempted to do (the ritual, the murder etc.) there is a fan shown blowing fast.
So I think this is an *inside* joke by Cypher to show Johnny AND the viewer that every time a fan blows, even gently, Johnny's evil is present in some way.

"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."

[–] fiatlux-1 11 years ago

Which 'bowl' are you referring to? I haven't seen the film in a while.

"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."

[–] sillyspaghetti 10 years ago

Thanks for the info about the fans. Was gonna ask.

[–] Spike_the_Cactus 9 years ago

The director says the fans are a 'portent of death'. Personally it seems a bit clumsy and arbitrary.

[–] looker7 9 years ago

Spike_the_Cactus » 3 days ago (Sun Jul 31 2016 15:21:57)

"The director says the fans are a 'portent of death'. Personally it seems a bit clumsy and arbitrary."

I thought the symbolism of the fans -- i.e. them representing 'a portent of death' -- was fairly inventive, especially for a 1987 movie; it's not as though figurative motifs in films back then were jaw-dropingly brilliant or exceptionally clever, so I personally thought it worked and was fairly clever. I even think it would work in the present day.

[–] exaybachay84 9 years ago

I thought the symbolism of the fans -- i.e. them representing 'a portent of death' -- was fairly inventive, especially for a 1987 movie; it's not as though figurative motifs in films back then were jaw-dropingly brilliant or exceptionally clever, so I personally thought it worked and was fairly clever. I even think it would work in the present day

An early example of this technique can be seen in Howard Hawks' "Scarface" (1932) where an "X" foreshadowed impending death. Scorsese made a reference/an homage to that motif in "The Departed".

I really liked the use of fans and elevators in "Angel Heart" as symbols of evil forces creeping in. It's both simple and clever. A tremendous film overall.

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[–] Spike_the_Cactus 8 years ago

I think I just took exception to the way the director implied it was obvious. It wasn't, and only really made sense when he went to hell. I love this film but always thought the fan symbolism was ham-fisted.