theres some deleted scenes where Kirk and sulu argue about him taking the whole rap for stealing Enterprise . also in that scene Kirk is looking at the bay and is sad about the bird of prey sunk at the bottom of the bay.
also in the book is a scene where admiral Cartwright tries to get Kirk to come back to Earth
"sticks and stones may brake my bones but whips , chains, leather and tight pvc excite me"
They seem pretty trivial.
They tried to film a scene with Sulu meeting his great great grandfather as a little child, but the kid wouldn't cooperate, so it got dropped.
"Oh no...they sent the wrong Spock!"
They tried to film a scene with Sulu meeting his great great grandfather as a little child, but the kid wouldn't cooperate, so it got dropped.
Yeah. Hard to blame them; they were filming in San Francisco, so they couldn't possibly have found another Asian kid at the last minute.
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I'm sure there's a scene deleted that appeared in the original theatrical run, because I remember someone in S.F asked Kirk if he wanted a cup of coffee, and they all looked at each other like "what the hell is coffee?" and Uhura Googled it on her tricorder and it displayed "a beverage made from beans" and I remember Cpt Kirk sneering in disgust. Of course they should know what coffee is, they drank it often in TOS, so I guess it's a canon type of screw up that should be deleted.
Anyone else remember this scene from the original run?
Ehh...drugs 'r bayad...don't do drugs. M'kay?
"Oh no...they sent the wrong Spock!"
What a stoopid fvcking answer, my question is legitimate.
shareSaw the film when it first came out. No such scene was in the copy I viewed.
My comment was largely based on your claim that Uhura "googled" something on her tricorder. Seriously?
"Oh no...they sent the wrong Spock!"
Sometimes we read something in the novel and "see" it so completely that we falsely "remember" it being in the movie.
The novel was Vonda McIntyre, wasn't it? One addition that I'm sure was NOT a deleted scene, but her trying to "add" to the story, was the business about one of the garbagemen being a novelist, and all the "toaster" talk was him describing the novel in the character's voices. He came back every night after the landing "looking for answers," and when he didn't get them, there was still a "happy ending" when he told his partner "I figured out how to end my novel!" Suchy a cheap, amateurish way to "expand" the story.
"After years of fighting with reality, I am pleased to say that I have finally won out over it."
I'm sure it's not a false memory, I have a full recollection of it, I've read many ST novels, but alright, you know I was just trying to be humorous re "Googling".
shareI'm sure it's not a false memory, I have a full recollection of it . . .
For twenty or thirty years my wife vividly remembered the ST:TAS episode "Yesteryear" as a live-action TOS episode until I told her it wasn't. We underestimate how much (re)construction is involved in memory.
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Lazy + smart = efficient.
Many years ago in college I tried to improve my cred by making up a friendship with Tom Hamilton, bassist for Aerosmith. To this day, I still have vivid memories of this imaginary friendship.
I'm also convinced that almost nothing we remember is 100% accurate. Memories are colored by our own perception and personal biases as soon as they're imprinted.
"Oh no...they sent the wrong Spock!"
Yeah. Another film-related example is the famous one from Mad Max: quite a few viewers "remember" actually seeing Goose all burned up in the hospital and are convinced the shot has been removed. But it was never there. The scene is just so vivid and well-acted that people have constructed false memories that the shot was in the film -- based, one assumes, on true memories of what they themselves imagined Max was seeing.
We once had someone on the Trek boards "remembering" the planned scene you mentioned above, in which Sulu met his great-great-something-grandfather as a child, similarly certain that the scene had been edited out. But it was never shot.
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....and that's another good reason for not "Lucasing" classic films.
Props to Steven Spielberg -- the Blu-ray release of ET is the original cut.
"After years of fighting with reality, I am pleased to say that I have finally won out over it."
That was the problem with Vonda's novelizations...when she was on her game, she was very good, especially when it came to description. And I really liked the fact that in the STIV novelization, she put in a conversation between Kirk and McCoy about the events of "City on the Edge of Forever."
But one of her main failings was to change what was already there onscreen in favor of her own subplots/backstories. There was that retcon of the garbageman being a would-be novelist instead of a working joe griping about his wife, for one thing. Then there's what she did with her STIII novelization--it's obvious onscreen that the Klingon agent Valkris and Commander Kruge are lovers, maybe even spouses, right? And that he nonetheless is forced to kill her because she's seen the Genesis data, and she understands that completely, emphasizing how ruthless and pragmatic the Klingon code of honor can be? Well, Vonda ditched that entirely and made it so Valkris and Kruge never even met, that she comes from a disgraced family looking to regain its honor, and that when she says "and my love," it's hastily explained that "she loved him as the key to her family's redemption" or some such. I mean, for crying out loud, Vonda, wasn't what was already there dramatic enough?
Another problem that she was hung up on was inserting her own original characters and subplots and spending as much time, if not more, on them than on the actual story of the movie. In some ways, that can feel like a welcome expansion. In others, it gives you a "just-get-ON-with-it-already!" feeling. I mean, did we really need an entire subplot about the GARBAGEMAN?! And the STIII novel has almost an entire chapter dealing with Scotty's niece, Peter Preston's sister, and her interactions with one of Peter's crewmates, when what we really want is to get back to the mystery surrounding Spock and Genesis.
Coincidentally, I think that "City on the Edge of Forever" had a minor influence on Back to the Future.
shareIn the novel, Dr. Nichols had already been known to Scotty as the person who invented transparent aluminum. Giving him the formula in the book wasn't that great a risk.
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