So JJ-Trek has rewritten the timeline from Kirk's birth onward..... which, as many people have stated, leaves "Enterprise" as canon. The past timeline should stay how it was, with the rewrite occurring at the moment of the Romulan incursion.
That means the 20th century time period does not get touched, or rewritten.
That means that if someone were to look back, they would still find classic versions of the characters running around 1986 San Francisco.
I wonder where they disappear to when they time travel out, and where those whales end up, considering their timeline no longer exists. Do they pop out of existance, or end up in a future completely different due to the reboot, and not know why? If someone from the new timeline were to go back to 86, get on that Bird of Prey (ennacting a minor rewrite of the timeline by their presence) where would that member of the new reality end up?
The original timeline still exists. Everything in the JJ-verse takes place in an alternate/parallel reality. Which is why Shatner-Kirk would still be available to appear in the next movie.
But I've always liked to think that they returned to a future where Plexicorp is the biggest and most profitable company in the galaxy and their are planets named after Dr. Nichols.
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Right.... at the very least, they return to a world where their contributions happen much earlier, with the differences those events caused, plus an extra set of eyeglasses, dated to be much older then they look, causing all sorts of confusion to collectors.
Thats what I'm basing my question off of - the whole concept of time travel that i like / support / use - timeline rewrites. Not predestination paradoxes, and not parallel universes, so agree to disagree on this point. I think the "the real universe still exists" people are just trying to justify their own desires.... one timeline, different events happening due to time travel butterfly effect, effectively replacing the old events. We saw this with "City" and "Yesterdays Enterprise".... sure, there might be parallel universes too, but those are totally different things then affecting your own past and its casual effects. This type of time travel is used, for instance, on the show Fringe, and in movies like Back to the Future, or 12 Monkeys. If this wasn't the case, there wouldn't be any huge drama/importance to restore the timeline to its proper form, and it would be unfufilling to think that the bad future you sacrificed to restore still exists out there... the whole point to that type of story is that if the hero succeeds in changing the past, the bad future will no longer exist. Old Spock and Nero were the remnants of the old timeline, the temporal causes of the rewrite, and thus, as the "traveler" they were protected from the rewrites to the timeline. Any events before that incursion, however, should be untouched, including previous excursions to the past, as those events still happened in that earlier era (1930s and 1960s in TOS, 1986 in TVH) as they were not touched by the rewrite that occurs from Kirk's birth forward.
Obviously, the theoretical questions i'm posing depend on accepting the rules for this particular time travel theory. ;)
A number of years ago, I told a friend that if time travel were ever possible at any point in the future, we would see the effects of it today. He pointed out that Ozzy Osborne was America's favorite TV dad. I surrendered to his logic. Out timeline has been hopelessly altered.
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Frankly, as far as I'm concerned the JJ reboot has no affect on the classic time line ......... because I view it as being little more than an elaborate fan-fic with a really big budget to put into filming.