The Dream - Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (1986) Discussion

[–] herbsuperb 12 years ago

I'm pretty sure that was the goal, and it worked. I've never really understood that scene. Was it a dream, an illusion, a message? Did just Kirk see it, or the whole crew, or anybody? I've no idea. In any case it was pretty cool.

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[–] dan-willi84 12 years ago

I must admit I did find that sequence creepy when I first saw it as a kid.

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[–] Porpoise01 12 years ago

I found it odd, and kinda creepy. Nimoy was going for arthouse surrealism, but in my opinion, he was not successful. The only thing I found interesting was that, as they time travelled, we heard bits of dialogue that hadn't actually happened yet.

"After years of fighting with reality, I am pleased to say that I have finally won out over it."

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[–] bjlevine 12 years ago

It always kind of reminded me of the time travel sequence in Nick Meyer's Time After Time, though that one was less visually interesting.

Glad we didn't get a reprise when they went back to the 23rd century.

"Oh no...they sent the wrong Spock!"

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[–] bethgoth17 11 years ago

It cracks me up personally. Seriously, I can't watch that scene now because it makes me laugh so much, and I don't even understand why it does. I usually go for a snack or something when it pops up. I'm smiling just thinking about it right now XD

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[–] SteveResin 10 years ago

I'm sure Lionel Richie's model head from the Hello video popped up in there too at one point.

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[–] kurthowe 10 years ago

Worst pickup line to a blind person in the history of time has got to be "Is it me you're looking for?"

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[–] rickyp-3 9 years ago

Creepy? No. Bizarre and pretty senseless (since some of the "heads" spout forth dialogue from bits of the movie that are yet to happen, and which could not posibly be existing in any of the minds of the crew, time travel or not)? Yes. I could never quite work out what it was meant to be "about".

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[–] Koosh_King01 9 years ago

I think it's intended to convey what one might possibly experience when traveling through time. The reason we hear dialogue that hasn't happened yet is because Kirk is effectively going past them through time.

I mean, really, how many times will you look under Jabba's manboobs?

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[–] adamdurrance 9 years ago

So what artful way would you show going back in time? Keep in mind this was done in the 80s before CGI really took off.

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[–] kurthowe 9 years ago

Nothing from their POV. TOS already established that the method used is imperceptible to the travelers.

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[–] Kojiro_Vance 9 years ago

That scene to me almost ruined an otherwise perfect movie. I always fast forward that part.

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?

It's like The motion picture with that slow motion wormhole scene... Ugh, terrible.

I'm just on my way up to Clavius.

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[–] bjlevine 9 years ago

Nick Meyer had a rather odd little scenario in the movie Time After Time when HG Wells is travelling to the future. I guess he thinks it's artistic (or even necessary). But it certainly didn't ruin the movie for me.

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[–] Kojiro_Vance 9 years ago

Well, ruined was maybe a bit exaggerated .

Star Trek 4 is a great film, but that scene, ugh. And then those creepy voices. 

I'm just on my way up to Clavius.

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[–] wmcclain-1 8 years ago

I found it endearing. How are you going to represent some other dimension where space, time and mind cross over and intersect in different ways?

I did wonder: did a Higher Power fire the braking thrusters both times? They seemed surprised.

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[–] kurthowe 8 years ago

Not "surprised"...but unclear if the voyage was successful (Spock "isn't exactly operating on all thrusters").

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