I DIDNT hate father


i have not seen the movie but i read the book and i do not see why so many people turn against father at the end. throughout the book i thought his philosophy was very advanced and clever, he was a genius and very handy. i think that he should have been taken more seriously than people really took him.

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Yeah, but he almost led his family to near death circumstances in the jungles. But he was clever (the fire and ice thing) and made some good points on American capitalism.
I know, we had read it in 9th grade English class (it sucked through ;)

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that must have been awful to read it in class. read it in about three days on the train morning and afternoon, so i guess i might have enjoyed it more than someone who would have it assigned for school.

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Read between the lines Allie Fox was a sociopath. His only motive for building fat boy was to control people, not better their condition.

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The man DID make some good points about the complacency and laziness present in much of America, but you can tell that he's one seriously flawed nutcase the moment he decides to move his family out into the middle of the jungle to start some twisted, utopian monarchy. It's like he's giving up on society, so he decides to start over, but that's not how you make change. He said he wanted to prove a point, but history has already proven the point time and time again. I also agree that America is going down the tube fast, but Allie's approach was itself complacent in a way, egotistical, and dogmatic. You can't just start over if somethings not working, you have to fix what is broken. And all the thermodynamic ice machines, and hydro-powered pulley systems in the world aren't going to change laziness or immorality. This is where philosophy and wisdom comes into play....

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