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Speech before Lady Jane is beheaded

posted 22 years ago by kmraines3882
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If someone remembers Jane's speech about when doves take flight, I would appreciate reading it. This is before she is beheaded.

[–] fleissm 21 years ago

The soul takes flight to the world that is invisible, and there arriving is assured of bliss and forever dwells in Paradise. (Plato on the death of Socrates)

[–] abducted_love 20 years ago

I'm not trying to correct fleissm or anything, but I heard her say:

The soul takes flight to the world that is invisible, but there arriving she is she of bliss and forever dwells in paradise.

I may be wrong because perhaps you are getting it right from the book, this was from the movie.

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[–] guardgurl_2005 20 years ago

Dr. Feckenham says the speech about the dove taking flight at the end of the movie after they are beheaded. Anne does not make a speech. All she is seen doing is handing the Dr. a shilling and telling the beheader she forgives him. Also, right before she is beheaded she says "guildford"

[–] Spiderbait 20 years ago

Ehm.. I haven't seen the film yet but I thought Jane never liked Guildford... She was forced into the marriage. She hated the Duke of Nothumberland, had never met Guildford before and I highly doubt that they ever fell in love.

And for the speech, she did make a speech! But you say she doesn't make a speech in the film?

[–] nihilistwonder 20 years ago

It's true, Jane didn't like Guildford (probably would have gotten along better with her like-minded cousin King Edward if he'd lived.) But there is an account that when she saw her husband's body being taken for burial after his own execution, she expressed sorrow and pity (not unmarked by fear of her own fate, I'm sure.) Though influenced by her religious views, and appalled at her marriage, Jane was intelligent and sensitive enough to realize that they both were victims of their families' ambitions, and that they were very young to have to die for something that wasn't their own fault.

[–] Spiderbait 20 years ago

But there is an account that when she saw her husband's body being taken for burial after his own execution, she expressed sorrow and pity (not unmarked by fear of her own fate, I'm sure.)

Yes you are right. I think she felt sorry for him, since he was a victim too. Though she did not love him, I am convinced at that!

[–] melsky_f 19 years ago

the love story part between jane and guildford wasnt real but i must admit that the untruthful "love story" in the movie is what have drawn me to watch and eventually like it... soooo romantic!

[–] katya18 19 years ago

whats a movie without a love story anyway
it isnt all factual and i think it wouldnt have been as successful without the love story - people expect a love story - think about it

[–] Celebrity_Wannabe 19 years ago

She gets beheaded?

Do they both die?

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[–] monicabadia 19 years ago

There are enough evidences that report that Lady Jane probably despised Guilford Dudley for his being aggressive, arrogant and spoilt. But he had no other documented flaws.

Nevertheless a couple of things are still puzzling the historians on that: 1 - Jane did watch her husband's execution. She stood by her window and watched as he went to his death (Jane is alleged to have cried, "Oh Guilford, Guilford" with several sobs); 2 - the inscription "Jane" ("Iane", actually) in the Beauchamp tower where Guilford waited for his execution has been attributed to Guilford himself, some scholars suggest he was longing for his mother, also called "Jane". It is rather unusual though that he'd address his mother by her christian name; 3 - Guilford's request to see his wife short before the execution. Jane, however, refused to see him, waiting until they met 'in a better place.'

[–] IsoldeJaneHolland 18 years ago

Jane's Book of Hours (a little prayer book) still exists, and on the
morning of her death she wrote in it, quoting Ecclesiastes,"The preacher
saith there is a time to live and a time to die, and the hour of our
death is better than the hour of our birth."

She was carrying the book as she ascended the scaffold, and handed it
to one of her attendents just before she died.

[–] obsessedchikee 18 years ago

After seeing the movie, I was filled with a desire to learn more about Jane's brief rule. I was interested to learn of Jane and Guildford's true feelings for each other, but even more, as mentioned, what happened before the executions.

My conjecture is this: they could have made "Lady Jane" with the two main character's disliking each other, but beyond accuracy, what point would it serve? Few people want to see a movie where the married character's hate each other. It would have detracted from the tale. As it is, this movie isn't widely loved and I think, as a film, that truth would have destroyed it.

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