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Would Kreese

posted 6 years ago by spiderduck1997 (70)
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have been charged with Attempted Murder over the parking lot incident with Johnny in real life?

[–] strntz (12223) 6 years ago

He wasn't trying to kill him. Prosecutor could never win that case.

Assault and battery for sure though.

[–] spiderduck1997 (70) 6 years ago

I disagree. Kreese choked Johnny. Johnny could have died if not for Miyagi's intervention. In Episode 9 of Cobra Kai, Johnny described the incident as Kreese trying to kill him, so I would argue that Kreese was guilty of 2nd Degree Attempted Murder.

[–] strntz (12223) 6 years ago

Johnny could have died if not for Miyagi's intervention.

The evidence doesn't support that contention.

[–] spiderduck1997 (70) 6 years ago

I'm pretty sure that choking can kill someone.

[–] strntz (12223) 6 years ago

I'm pretty sure that choking can kill someone.

So can speeding or running a red light. I think everyone should be charged with attempted murder rather than getting a traffic ticket.

[–] AP (5288) 6 years ago

No, but he could be charged with assaulting a minor.

[–] strntz (12223) 6 years ago

Exactly. Attempted murder is a *very* difficult charge to prove, probably more difficult than manslaughter and murder (when in fact a dead body exists). There was a woman who hired a hitman to kill her husband get off an attempted murder charge. If that's not intent, what is?

[–] wearsalan (5554) 6 years ago

Kreese suffered the ultimate punishment......he lost all his students.
Personally I think he could have played the ptsd card in this day and age. Back then it probably wasn't worthy of police attention.

[–] strntz (12223) 6 years ago

Almost certainly. Not only did he put Johnny in a choke hold, he punch/slapped Johnny's friends when they tried to get Kreese to let Johnny go. Hard to imagine any of the others staying with him.

[–] PaladinNJ (21509) 6 years ago

Attempted Murder - No.
Assault and Battery and Endangering the Welfare of a Minor - definitely