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My brother dated one of Budy's victims


My older brother was stationed at Fort Lewis in suburban SeaTac back in the early 70's. A few years before she was killed, she was introduced to my brother, and the two of them attended the wedding of one of his Army buddies. They only dated a few more times and it never really got serious. He was shocked a few years later when he found out that she had fallen victim to Bundy's homicidal madness.

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Who was the victim?

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Yeah as that shocks me
That he dated a victim
That became tragically one of Bundys!

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Who was it? Lynda Healy?

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I don't remember which one it was, especially since all of the names were changed in the movie. Also, I was quite young when my brother was in the Army. We're talking between 1970 and 1972, so that would have made me anywhere between 7 to 9 years old.

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One other thing...but unrelated to the Bundy case. While he was in the service, he was also a member of the military search crew who was ordered to search for infamous airplane hijacker D.B. Cooper. Suffice it to say, my brother had a few interesting years while he was stationed at Ft. Lewis.

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One of my uncle's friends in a Florida college he attended was a friend of Bundy, she was a female and is lucky she didn't go anywhere with him alone.

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My grandpa taught at one of the local community colleges. And one of his students was a victim of Bundy's Denise(she disappeared from Lake Sammamish). She was in his class the Fall Quarter before she died.

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Actually your uncle's female friend was probably never in any danger, even if she had gone somewhere alone with Bundy. From what I understand and especially as noted in the movie "The DELIBERATE STRANGER" Bundy only went after girls he did not know and had just met right before he abducted and killed them. He deliberately chose strangers to murder. There is a scene in the movie "The Stranger Beside Me" by Ann Rule where Ann is telling Ted that she is worried about her own daughter's safety and Ted tells her that she has nothing to worry about, her daughter is safe. Ted would never have harmed Ann's daughter because he knew Ann and he knew her daughter personally. For some reason he just never harmed anyone he knew.

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There was a rumor that Ted's first victim may have been someone he knew, which puzzled me as he's known as "The Deliberate Stranger". In Rule's book, she mentions that one of Ted's young neighbors went missing when Ted was a teen.
It was never proven that Ted did it, but it seemed he was later suspected of it.

Serial killers are said to begin in their comfort zone. I don't know if Bundy did it, whether he ever confessed to it.


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Why not deal with these people accordingly?

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but 1 of the girls who disappeared was an aquaintance of Anns daughter.

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He did elude to seeing her before, but not to knowing her. So his remaining the stranger was kept intact. That was one of the keys to his mastery of his awful craft. Most every killing is done by friends & family, so his not having anything but coincidental ties to his victims was a reason he was so horribly successful.

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yes he killed women he did not know and in different areas....very smart...he was the first

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And he escaped twice while in custody. The first in Aspen, Colorado where he was there for a preliminary hearing representing himself. He asked to be allowed to use the library to use their legal books. He didn't have any handcuff or leg irons and he went to look for a way out and found a window behind a bookshelf. He stayed within the city limits, hid in the woods and used cabins and campers. After six days of not much sleep or food to eat, he got lost in the woods. He came upon a car with the keys inside and stole the car. So sleep deprived and in constant pain from his ankle, which he injured while on the run, he was pulled over by two policemen who noticed his car swerving from lane to lane.

He was thrown back in jail but with the help of inmates he acquired hacksaw and from his many visitors received $500. He sent out by making a hole in the ceiling of his cell and lost a lot of weight so he could fit through the hole. He made a few trial runs, explored the jail, and in late December, while most of the jail staff was on Christmas break, he squeezed into his hole and used the crawl space to reach the chief jailer’s apartment. The jailer was out with his wife, so Bundy changed into some of his street clothes and simply walked out the door. His escape this time wasn't discovered for almost 24 hours. By then, he was in Chicago, having stolen a car, hitched a ride after the car broke down, and taken a bus and then a plane. In January, he ended up in Tallahassee, Florida, where he rented a room in a boarding house and used an alias. He intended to lay low, believing he could stay in Florida and escape detection. 7 days after the second escape, he came upon the girls in the sorority and we all know what happened after that. He stole a FSU van and drove to Jacksonville, tried to kidnap a teenager but failed and drove to another Florida city, where he successfully kidnapped another teenager from a junior high and her body was found weeks later.

A few days later, Bundy stole a VW bug and decided to flee Florida. He was behind on his rent, he was on the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted List, and he had the feeling that the cops were closing in. He made it almost to the Alabama state line before a Florida cop pulled him over after a random wants and warrants check told the cop the car was stolen.

I've always remembered that he did that and he was very smart but he couldn't control his impulses to kill and/or rape, if he could've controlled those impulses who knows how long he would have remained free. He would have faced additional trials in the following states: Washington, Colorado, Utah, Oregon, Idaho and Vermont had he not gotten the death penalty in Florida. I've studied serial killers, mostly because I'm interested in the psychology of serial killers whether their born that way or made by their environment and circumstances. I've read just about everything on Ted Bundy that I could find. He is probably the most interesting of all the serial killers because he was charming, very intelligent but antisocial and had some very severe personality disorders, yes more then one. My psychology professor determined that he believed that Ted Bundy was born that way although his home life wasn't ideal it only cemented his personality and the anger that laid under the surface. If Florida hadn't executed him all the other state minus Vermont all had the death penalty in 1979.

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Its likely that Bundy knew Lynda Healy, at least in passing. She was in his class and they shopped in the same Safeways and she lived just around the corner from him. Its highly unlikely she was a total stranger to him.

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Oh my God, that was the young woman he took home with him after killing her. But, she wasn't the first young woman he killed. In January 1974, he had smashed a rod over Sharon Clarke’s head while she was sleeping, raped and killed her. He didn't know her as he never knew most of the women he killed. It was a few weeks later that he went after Linda who only lived a few blocks from Sharon and after that, over the next few months, four more female students disappeared off the University District at The University of Washington campus and university areas. In my research, I have read that Ted had taken bodies home with him. Linda was believed to be his first victim he took home although he killed her in her bed, removed her bed clothes, hung them up in her closet with her blood on them, redressed her in her clothes from that day and made the bed. It creeps me out thinking what he did to her body in his own home.

But he had a history with Linda, he actually lived a few blocks away from her himself, attended a psychology classes with her and had cashed a check at the University District Safeway the night before at the same time she was there. It gives me chills to think about how he may have stalked her, watched her movements. Had he exchanged words or talked with her? Had he watched her enter and leave class? It's believed she was the one female victim that he might have known before she was murdered. But, had he targeted her a long time before? Was he following her and waiting for the opportunity to rape, beat and kill her? There are too many factors to be coincidences. I'm just glad that they finally caught him. He was dangerous to any female and he deserved the death penalty. It always amazes me how so many serial killer whine about the death penalty for themselves but had no such notion or idea when killing someone. I know there are some psychiatrist and psychologist who didn't want him to die because they wanted to study him but that doesn't mean he would have told the truth, he was known to be a liar. 

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In January 1974, he had smashed a rod over Sharon Clarke’s head while she was sleeping, raped and killed her.


Actually, this young woman did survive, but was left with permanent brain damage. She was at one point brought in to see if she recognized any of the other victims in the area. She did not.

I don't know if she's still living now, but she did survive the brutal attack by Bundy.

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