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Fine depiction of Bundy's criminal career, but with one problem...


This is an excellent portrayal of Ted Bundy and his crimes, and Mark Harmon does a pretty good job as Bundy, the only problem I could see was, it could have offered more insight as to what exactly made Bundy tick.

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i read a book wirten by some one who knew him, or thought she knew him (called 'a stranger beside me'), and it didn't really say. some might figure (like myself) it had something to with the fact that his 'sister' was actually his mother. he felt she abondoned him or something, so he took the anger out on other women. but his victims didn't look a thing like his mother, i don't think. they all wore their hair parted down the middle and also targeted a few kids as well. and a couple vics survived. i don't know. sociopaths don't really let their ticks known, 'cos they 'are above' everyone else, they don't desevre to know. i have no clue.

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In the book "The Stranger Beside Me", Ann Rule notes that most of Bundy's victims had long straight hair parted in the middle - just like Stephanie Brooks, Bundy's first girlfriend who later dumped him due to his immaturity and lack of ambition. Rule speculates that Bundy's resentment towards his first girlfriend was a motivating factor in his string of murders. He couldn't stand the fact that Stephanie had full control to take such a decision affecting his life. And later murdering the victims resembling her, gave him the feeling of control and power to satisfy his need for revenge.

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They should has shown
In insecurities as well
As how why he got to be the monster
That he became!

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I read another book about Bundy (in which he was interviewed by the author)I can't remember the name, but in an addition to the end of the book, the author had does some research on Bundy's family roots and found out that his father (who abandoned him and his mother as a child) was schizophrenic, and that a number of relatives on his father's side of the family suffered from that same affliction. So it wasn't entirely anybody's fault that he did what he did--the man was just a damn sick-ass psychopath and anything would have set him off regardless. I mean c'mon--he went nuts because he couldn't handle his girlfriend dumping him? Please---a more mature and SANE man wouldn've gotten over it. I also saw this movie when it first broadcast back in the day---it was creepy, but I've always found the books about him to be even creepier as hell.

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IT WASN'T ABOUT THE DUMPING, IT WAS ABOUT THE FACT THAT SHE DIDN'T GIVE HIM ANY REASONS AT THAT TIME.

"Sandy n' myself r no longer engaged or 2gether" Now u can call ME Mrs. Padalecki

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Not true. She did give him reasons. Repeatedly.

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Schizophrenia and sociopathy are two very different pathologies. From what I understand (I am certainly no expert!), schizophrenics have faulty wiring in their brains or something--it's partly a chemical problem, which is why it's essential they take their medication. OTOH, sociopaths lack a conscience--they simply do not care about anyone but themselves. Sometimes they don't even think anyone but themself is even alive, in a meaningful sense. No medication can help that, at least not right now.

Does the book try to link the two? Certainly schizophrenics have committed some pretty horrible crimes but it sounds to me like it might've been just happenstance that his father's side of the family had so much mental illness.

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the documentary on youtube gives some good insights. like as well as some of the other things mentioned here, i.e. he thought his sister was really his mother, girlfriend dumping him etc.

but his mother/sister had an abusive partner who would often beat her, but he held high positions in society, so therefore it was argued ted looked up to him moreso than his real father who was blue collar. he aspired it seems to be prestigious, more of a case of social rather than psychological i think. although these two factors heavily intertwined with each other and made ted bundy.

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His actual paternity has never been verified because his mother named several people(a local business man, a "sailor" in the Air Force etc) so no one could say for any certainty and any interviews he gave would be suspect since he himself never knew and told several versions also including that his cousin showed him his birth certificate and then that he found it himself.

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The college girl break up spawned him to take a road trip to find his roots all the way to Burlington, Vermont where he found out that his sister was his REAL mother and his mother was his REAL grandma, after that, he um, lost it. It was a perfect storm.

These types of crimes still happen in route 16 or the highway of tears in Canada but nobody cares because it's 1st nation people (Native American) and they don't have stand your ground laws. And the beat goes on.

Spoiler alert for them spoil sports out there! Y'all like spoiled milk, stop crying over it!

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The girlfriend theory is very weak. First, the girls had all different colors of hair and lengths, despite what the film says. And the parted in the middle thing is simply because most young women wore their hair that way in the 70's. Ann Rule's book is excellent in terms of describing the crimes but is of no use in terms of WHY he did what he did. Many many many men have bad break ups but, obviously, don't go on to become serial killers.

I did some good answers from a book from one of the men that did extensive interviews with Ted in prison. Ted was a necrophiliac. That was his main compulsion. Not the act of killing so much, as Ted himself explained that part didn't really excite him, but the desire to have sex with a dead body. The book revealed that Bundy would go back to his dump sites, weeks, even months after the murders, to have sex with the corpses.

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'What made him tick'? Er, being a psychopath helped.

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I believe he was a sadistic psychopath who hated women because he considered them weak and believed he could possess them. I have read where he preferred sex with corpses because he could possess the body. Bundy is a strong argument for some people are born bad and some are born evil.

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