Why would Vince dump the game where he wins $16,000 when if he won he would make it to the semi-finals and win $50,000 if he wins?
Especially considering Vince's cockiness he would definitely have went for the bigger score and one that he wouldn't have to split.
It would also give him a chance at the finals table which presumably was for much more - $250,000+?
I think he was trying to save face for losing. On the other hand he said people were lining up to play him since he lost.
shareI think Vincent held resentment for Eddie dumping them and just did it to make Eddie feel like $h*t. He knew how to hustle now and knew there would be other tournaments and by losing to Eddie his odds just shot through the roof.
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I like this explanation the best, I think. Vince had to play Eddie in the quarter finals, and decided to dump for a few reasons. One, he could tell Eddie afterwards and stick it to him that way. Two, he could make up for the loss hustling since he was still an unknown. Three (I think probably the biggest reason for his character) he was afraid he'd lose if he played the real game. However much Vince had learned about the other pool players, he had no idea how good Eddie would be after three weeks of practice and finally getting glasses, so Eddie was an unknown, just like he said at the very beginning of the movie. Vince and Carmen were still in the same position, they didn't know whether or not to take the bet, so they decided to skirt the issue. In the end, Eddie is back and has redeemed his character from what he felt was a boring life. Vince has corrupted his own character by allowing Eddie to use him (both financially and emotionally) and failed his own test by running away from it.
shareHowever much Vince had learned about the other pool players, he had no idea how good Eddie would be after three weeks of practice and finally getting glasses, so Eddie was an unknown, just like he said at the very beginning of the movie.That's a good point, I never picked up on that. Thanks!
Vince was willing to dump because since Eddie left him he had become a true hustler and was only interested in the money and had matured a bit past having to win all the time.
Vince dumped because once everyone saw him fail he'd hustle more money from people challenging him. Remember Eddie told him earlier that guys who went out in the first round often made more money just from the practise room? That's what Vince was going for.
I'd also wager that Vince has no interest in winning a competition that proves he's the best (as shown by his disinterest in playing 9ball at the start of the film) as he knows he is the best (at least in his mind) and is now more determined to prove he is the best hustler.
I understand that. But in the side games they never bet more than $1,000 at a time or so. It would take him a long time to make up the amount he could have won at the final table.
sharenot really, we don't know what the bets would of been in the back rooms, and the the days after the tournament.
his girlfriend became the manager and she would of presumably been looking for high stakes games, so the prize money would of ruined his career as a hustler.
he made a choice at the end, be a full time hustler, or a prize player.
once you are a prize player, won tournaments etc, you rep is to well known no one will play you.
as a hustler no one knows you, the world is yours!
What you write makes sense, but your grammar makes my eyes roll:
it's "would have been" instead of "would of been" (you make this error 3 times in a single post), and it's "too well known" instead "to well known". That's all.
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Actually eddie mentions early in the film that if you were a good hustler you would make much more than the actual winner of the tournament
shareIt's you MADE this error, not MAKE. That's all.
sharereally, this is just petty. you are stretching here. I see no problem with "make" when pointing out a person's action when he or she is writing a post.
"would of" instead of "would have" is substituting a completely different word for another- much much worse.
Do you feel better for picking on people's grammar, Gregorik? You must be compensating for something else, such as a small penis or a feeling of insecurity? Perhaps both, who knows.
shareI've got no dog in your spat, but I just saw the movie and came here to read more about it... and I, also, am getting very sick of so many people all over the 'net using "would of" instead of "would have". Frankly, making that error makes one look semi-illiterate, and the above commenter made it *many times*. One would do a lot better to just thank the person who politely corrects such an error, and then learn to not make it all the time any longer.
Just some helpful advice. Grammar does make an impact.
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nbreyfogle, while I agree with you that poor grammar can be an annoyance, it's somewhat arrogant to expect everyone to have the same education as yourself. Another thing to consider is that English may not be the poster's first language.
In fact, when you use grammatically incorrect sentences such as "learn not to make it all the time any longer", it frankly makes you look like a bit of a hypocrite. Perhaps you should learn how to use grammar correctly before you accuse others of bad grammar.
The previous comment that was correcting the grammar of this post was incredibly patronising. The words "my eyes rolled" being a prime example of this. IMDB is for discussing movies, not for picking on people or judging them on their English language skills.
Watch gregorik and nbreyfogle-1 get their asses handed to them
Grammar is needless. If a poster gets their point across without perfect grammar, more power to them. I can understand a teacher correcting a student's grammar, or a parent correcting their child's grammar.......But a random on the internet? Talk about a waste of time....
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I agree. Vince had way too much pride to dump. He has to be the best. I am a pool player he says to Eddie outside of Charkies. Eddie beat his ass and he got but hurt cause he thought he'd wipe the floor with him and got it handed to him. He tries to save face with the money to make Eddie feel like *beep* I think at this point Vince is the better player but Eddie was good enough to and did beat hi straight up.
shareTo carry a theme over from The Hustler, the real lesson Eddie was trying to teach Vince was character, that sometimes you have to lose to win. I'm not sure Vince learned character or not, but what he taught Eddie was that excellence is it's own virtue, it seemed that by the end of the movie Eddie was done Hustling and was only interested in playing his best, which is what Vince was doing from the beginning. Tricky movie, The Color Of Money, so many layers, so much going on, it's a shame so many people dismiss this movie and try to compare it to The Hustler, or worse, dismiss it because Tom Cruise is a Scientology weirdo, there's just so much to analyze about this movie it's a shame it's not higher rated and higher acclaimed.
shareAgreed. Most people, especially today, don't pay attention to subtext in a well written film. Only recently I was trying to explain character subtext to an imbecile on youtube regarding a very underrated film called "Strange Days". Imo, if people took the time to analyze films for their stories worth, they'd be even more immersed in it's entertainment.
shareYup, its a plot hole
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