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Why would Burke even want Ripley to go?


His goal (along with the company) is to secure an alien. Ripley clearly hates them and went as far as to blow up their ship to kill one. She specifically told Burke that she'd only go back if the plan was to kill the aliens. At this point wouldn't it make far more sense for Burke to say thanks anyway? What use could she possibly serve for him being there?

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What use could she possibly serve for him being there?

She is a scapegoat, of Swiss Army Knife proportions.

Remember:
Ripley clearly hates them and went as far as to blow up their ship to kill one.

Remember, the Company line is that she set teh self-destruct, "for reasons unknown".
She claims she saw an alien once *beep* but there's no evidence of that.

In short, she's a complete funking nutter with a penchant for blowing *beep* up and causing all manner of confusing mess... Burke can do just about anything and blame it all on her with perfect plausibility.

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erm....so she can confirm it is the same species maybe.

The greatest trick the Devil played was convincing people he didn't exist.....

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What, as opposed to one of the many other species from LV426 that gestate inside living human hosts and have concentrated acid for blood, yeh?

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Well bearing in mind he (Burke) didn't know what they would find there, it makes sense to take someone who has actually seen them.
Like the saying goes, 'You can shove your head up a cows arse if you want to check out a steak. Me? I'd prefer to ask the butcher'!

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Burke erroneously assumed he could bribe Ripley. Burke's plan was to make millions off sneaking some form of the Xeno back. He even said the two FH would allow him to be set for life and he was willing to cut Ripley in on all that good W-Y money.

She could have comfortably retired on the Martian Colonies or a nice Luna condo and have her status as a flight officer reinstated to boot. I would have took the money . W-Y was gonna get a Xeno sooner or later so Ripley might as well get a taste of the good life.

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But he still didn't know what they looked like did he? That's my point.
Don't mess with me man, I know everything about Aliens. I'm SF....er I mean I'm the champion of the quiz, I'm Wears-Alan 

The greatest trick the Devil played was convincing people he didn't exist.....

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Gorman said something about "it being on disc". I wonder if Ripley could have just recorded the disc and then drawn them a nice little sketch artist type of picture of a baby raptor drooling and an octopus crab.

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Imagine that.
Hudson: 'What's this man, a pizza with legs'?
Gorman: 'It's a xenomorph'.
Apone: 'A xenowhat'?
Frost: 'Hey, it looks like Arcturian poontang to me'!
Hudson: 'What really. And you dipped your dick in one of those'?

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Hicks: What exactly are we dealing with here?
Baski: It looks like a walking d/ckhead.
Vaz: So were looking for another Hudson.

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Well bearing in mind he (Burke) didn't know what they would find there, it makes sense to take someone who has actually seen them.

LV426 has been confirmed as "a rock. No indigenous life".
Therefore ANYthing not human, particularly meeting Ripley's description in the report, would be a fair bet on being what he's looking for.

Burke erroneously assumed he could bribe Ripley. Burke's plan was to make millions off sneaking some form of the Xeno back.

That was his plan, but not the reason he brought her.
He only offered money once she called him on it. Had he been cutting her in beforehand, he'd have disclosed the plan from the outset.

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Lv426 was described as such yes, but..........they were wrong weren't they?
Bearing in mind the crew of the Nostromo came back after Kane was attacked and they didn't know what else was down there, who's to say that there wasn't other life forms being kept on that ship (like some intergalactic Noah's Ark? We the audience (might think) we know otherwise, but Burke doesn't have the advantage of being in the audience does he?

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Lv426 was described as such yes, but..........they were wrong weren't they?

NO indigenous life... and they were wrong, you say?
OK, tell me which species are *indigenous* to LV426, then? 

Bearing in mind the crew of the Nostromo came back after Kane was attacked and they didn't know what else was down there, who's to say that there wasn't other life forms being kept on that ship

If there was, Ripley hadn't seen that either so again would be useless in identifying them. He also brought her with full knowledge that she wanted nothing but their outright destruction. NOT to study, NOT to bring back... and yet he still played the game and played her.
She was a scapegoat from the beginning.

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Wrong as in there not being something there. Didn't realize you wanted that part spoon feeding to you.

If there was, Ripley hadn't seen that either so again would be useless in identifying them.

No, but she had seen what he (Burke) was specifically looking for and could confirm whether or not it was indeed that particular life form. I mean he didn't want to come back with some scabby life form that had chewed through the communication system and basically infected the colonists with sleeping sickness did he?
As for being a scapegoat, well that goes without saying doesn't it?

The greatest trick the Devil played was convincing people he didn't exist.....

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Wrong as in there not being something there. Didn't realize you wanted that part spoon feeding to you.

Didn't realise that when you make comments in specific reference to something, you weren't actually referring to it...

No, but she had seen what he (Burke) was specifically looking for and could confirm whether or not it was indeed that particular life form.

Derelict ship, thousands of eggs - That's all he really needs.
Anything else is just a bonus and pretty obvious when it gets all murderous like it did before.

As for being a scapegoat, well that goes without saying doesn't it?

And yet the OP was asking...

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OP may be assuming a fact not necessarily in evidence. Burke has juice at W-Y but he isn't the top dog. Whoever signed off on the mission may have told Burke "See if Ripley will go since she is the only person to have actually seen one, if she was telling the truth about this creature then we will reinstate her license".

Ripley said no at first, but the mission was still a go without her. Burke may have not really wanted (or needed for his plan) Ripley tagging along, but was just following his superior's orders by inviting her.

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The general opinion seems to favour Burke acting on his own initiative, which would ultimately peg him as the guy who brought the Xeno to WY and thus solidly stake his claim on any percentages forthcoming.

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Hahahaha , brilliant :)

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Paul Reiser defended the character, saying he did not start out as a bad guy. In the beginning, before we know of his path, he started out as a good guy who was interested in helping Ripley and getting her reinstated. It was partly to help her conquer some unresolved fears. I also think he legimiately wanted to help her by having someone check out to see if the alien ship might have existed. It wasn't until he saw the creatures and their potential for the bio-weapons that he got greedy and two-faced.

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Might just be me, but I always got a kinda stalker-y vibe from Burke where Ripley was concerned.
I think he had the hots for her and he was blinded by this fact (and his own ego) into thinking that she would go along with his plan to bring back a Xeno specimen and they would be rich and live happily ever after going to swanky Space parties, expensive Moon resorts, and so forth.
The telling moment, imho, was when she 'Facetime' calls him after another nightmare and he answers the phone and is surprised to see her, but then looks behind him at someone (I'd bet that it's that night's hookup (likely some bimbo easily impressed with him flashing money around or being wined-and-dined) and he's looking to make sure she's still asleep so Ripley doesn't hear/see her) and then continues talking even closer to the screen, as if he's trying to block something.
Hmmm...
Also he was keeping tabs on her - reading the reports for her mandatory therapy sessions (aren't those supposed to be confidential? Not for sneaky peaky Burke, I guess!) and knowing where she was at all times, etc.
Creeeeeepy!
Just adds another layer to his all-around sleaziness if one imagines that Burke is deluded enough to think he stands a chance at getting Ripley in his bed! Ha!
Great character though! I hated his annoying character on "Mad About You" (and hated the show in general), but absolutely loooove him as Burke!
He played the slimeball corporate yuppie character to a T!
Definitely a character that even many (many!) viewings and years later, I still love to hate!
But yeah - I think his rose-colored glasses seriously misjudged Ripley and he thought she was some traumatized D.I.D. (damsel in distress) that he could easily impress once he seduced her with his talk of money and 'we'll be set up for life' promises.
Ripley is one lady that cannot be sweet-talked or bought, if anything that just pisses her off more and makes her slam you into a wall! Atta girl!

Light a fire, a fire, a spark
Light a fire, a flame in my heart

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Didn't make much sense to me either. Why would you invite along the very person who is already suspicious of the Company, and could put a stop to your plans? Would've been better if she'd confronted Burke and demanded to be taken along back to LV-426 to make sure the Conpany wasn't going to capture the alien again.

~ I'm a 21st century man and I don't wanna be here.

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