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Orry Nicholas Main

posted 13 years ago by infatoneated
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I dont know if anyone comes here regularly anymore, but for ages I've been wanting to comment on something that has always bothered me, and where better to do it than here?
In the second movie, Madeline has the baby...something like two or three years into the war (maybe). She clearly gave birth before Augusta did and yet that baby always looks older then Orry Nicholas. In fact, even in book III, Orry Nicholas doesn't seem to get any older!! Madeline is always seen holding him and he doesn't even look old enough to walk. Gus is clearly older. I know that there were a lot of discrepancies between the books and the third movie (I haven't ever read them completely through), but this has definitely bugged me!!

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[–] taylorje 12 years ago

One of the many plot holes. In the book, Orry and Madeline didn't have a child.

You are right, though, when I can bear to watch Book III, it is clear that Orry Nicholas never ages.

[–] salchoff 10 years ago

Not only baby Orry age (or actually not age at all) in a strange pace:

1) Hope Hazard was born in March 1861, than is shown at the Christmas'64 at more or less correct age of about 4 years old. And than, in Book III series, which starts immediatelly after the war (let's call it summer of 1865), she's at her late pre-teen/early teen.

2) No boy Hazard in the first two shows and again a pre-teen boy in Book III.

3) Gus Main was born early in 1865 (not mention, it doesn't fit anything already in Book II !), while baby Orry a good year before. In Book III Orry remains a baby and Gus looks about 4-5 years (the actor must have been about 6, when they shot).

[–] rikajessie 10 years ago

It must be like the phenomenon of RJ Forrester on The Bold and The Beautiful. He never ages but all the other children born around when he was do age. 😀

As we discussed in another thread, Book 3 movie was making it like the book with George's children. George and Constance had two children early in the marriage, so they would have been pre-teens at the time of the 3rd book, just like the movie showed (by the way, their daughter's name is Patricia in the books).

Stanley and Isabelle also have children, twin boys, who are not shown in the first two movies but are in the 3rd.

In a way I applaud the 3rd movie's attempt to stay close to the books, but it was a bit late by that point and it just confused people who only saw the movies.

Those who had read the books first would be aware of the movie changes, so I don't see a point in rewriting the rewrites so mvie-only fans wouldn't get what was going on.