Now this will probably never be answered as sadly no one talks on these boards but how is the Australian version of Edge of Darkness 7 minutes longer than the British version. I'm interested what i missed so if someone knows please tell me
Thanks again. Your answer however, leads to another question (like they always do). What does this have to do with the rest of the story? Cos i'm confused now - well just a bit The Red Fleece
Funny thimng is, I first read that word in Patrick White's flashback memoir "Flaws in the Glass". He recalls his Sydney and NSW mates in the 20s and 30s would call him a pom.
It comes from the word a certain type of fruit that british sailors would eat to avoid getting scurvy....The Americans call Brits Limeys for the same reason...Of course all the Americans and Australians didn't have enough Vitamin C and died....
How come "Blimey!" is a word of shock or surprise in Nrit English then - at least it used to be. I'm Swedish myself, so I don't have an instant clue.
Speaking of Americans, Jedburgh of course was incredible. I really have to get the DVD, saw the series when it aired in Sweden in the eighties and I knew it was extraordinary, it pushed the boundaries of the medium as much as the first Monty Python shows. The ensemble of actors, the scenes from Northmoor and the fabulous, Hitchcock-like scene where Craven gets access to a computer hall with the intelligence databases, checks out the SIS notes on his daughter and on Northmoor, confirms some of his suspicions and then escapes by a hair's breadth - evocative as hell. And the point where Jedburgh meets one of the company owners at a conference in Scotland, and the guy asks him "Hello Jedburgh, where's my plutonium?" The old mercenary just shrugs and gives a broad grin at him.
British Naval records show that the word comes from the 'pom-pom' on the tops of sailors' hats. The OED is always pushing the case for 'pomegranate' but this is not really credible because pomegranates were unusual in those days.
Sailors were issued limes and lime juice, both of which kept better than lemons, for the vitamin C which suppressed scurvy.
I assume your last piece is some kind of cheap dig, but you should maybe bear in mind that the Americans and Australians were not seafaring nations and were therefore not subject to the vitamin C deprivation.
The Dutch were, however, and they dealt with their problems by eating cabbages.
Sorry, but I couldn't let that crack go by about Americans and Australians not being seafaring nations. Without seatrading, neither the USA, Canada nor Australia would exist as western nations. During the age of sail, just counting from the discovery of Botany Bay by Captain Cook in 1770, the number of embarkations under sail from these three areas would far outnumber that of British ports.
By the way, another theory about the origins of Pommie is that the original prisoners exported from England to Australia had the letters P.O.M.E. - standing for Prisoner of Mother England - stencilled on their clothes.
I am afraid you misunderstood the point of the comment, which was not intended to denigrate either Americans, Australians or Canadians. We and the other colonial powers made Empires by reason of our seafaring, and we owned most of the oceans for a long time. There's a big difference between seafaring in that sense and the seatrading you mention. We controlled a third of the world due to our seafaring prowess.
The theory about 'pommie' is pure urban legend. For starters the useage you quote is quirky and fanciful, and certainly not consistent with the times. And then there is the fact that 'pommies' is an Australian word, a pejorative word at that, for Englishmen. It's hardly likely that British authorities would stencil a term designated as offensive (until 2006) on prisoners heading for the Colonies. http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/pommy.asp