The 2 Joey's


Much has been talked about the comparison's of Howitts portrayal of Joey Boswell compared to Graham Bickley's.
Firstly as Howitt was first cast he was and will always remain the favourite, however at the moment, having seen some repeats on GOLD - which is now into the Bickley era, I came to looking at the 2 as impartially as I could.
IN the earlier Howitt era Joey comes across as much more cool and grown up, and cock sure of himself, we don't know what he's up to, but he's making money, and we don't know quite how but we can assume some of it was crminally, whether he forgot to pay the tax or not it was still illegal if you "forget" to pay tax, not too mention claim every bit of benefit under the sun that certainly proves he is to say the least lacking certain scruples. He gets away with it, because Howitt's portrayal was so full of charm, that you don't think of him as a crook in any way, within the family he is in total control, even of his Mum, as he takes charge when she can't cope.
He looks out for everyone, provides the most money, has the best car, and normally solves most of the family crisis at least to a degree where it's basically sorted.
However in the Bickley era, he's been rumbled for his dodgy dealings and owes £20,000 to inland revenue.
He's different, he's portrayed and seems to be written perhaps more as he actually ought to have been, as not as saintly, as Howitt's version came across, but more of the dodgy crook and slightly shady character he was meant to be.
He was more tortured, and torn between his love for the divorced protestant with children and his devoutly catholic mother.
He also lost a lot of authority after the £20K deal, as his Dad had to bail him out, and whilst he was still the most senior of the kids, and tried his best he seemed to be less in charge, more prone to getting angry almost to the point of violence on more than one occaison.
You get the impression that this Joey was actually a far darker character, never better illustrated than in the final confrontation with his Mother, you get the impression the earlier version would not have reacted this way.
So in the end I decide to look at the 2 Joey's like this.
Howitt is the charming lovable rougue that Joey Boswell would like to portray to the world, a cheeky chappy who does his best for everyone.
Graham Bickley's version is perhaps the darker Joey, the person who really lurks beneath Joeys apparently selfless and helpful exteriour, capable of more than we might imagine.
If you think of it this way it helps get over the character swap of such an integral character and the actor who portrayed him originally.



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Nobody got any thoughts/opinions?

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Hi tgrrrsss,
I think your assesment of the 2 Joey's is a good one - though in my opinion both the 2nd Aveline and Joey had a massive job to continue where Graham and Gilly left off in Rome in 1988!

Graham possibly potrayed Joey as we never knew what he had done to earn his money, but I think in a sort of way, it hwelped giving Graham such an amazingly challenging story-line in '89. this was different obviously to the Joey we knew - like in 1987 when he had been out all night and came home in his Dinner Suit for Breakfast ... we just knew Joey earned his money somehow but never how until we found out in '89 he was selling number-plates.

Joey had a caring side though when portrayed by Graham, I can recall Joey helping Leonora at the big house with her suitcase and she almost found him genuine I thought! Compare that with how Julie hated how Joey would react when portrayed by Peter Howitt and it show's how different but still charming Joey was when portrayed by Graham!

On another ub-note, I can not decide which Joey was closer (brotherly-wise) to Jack and Adrian. I am tempted to say Graham was closer to Jack than Peter was as Jack become more street-wise and less gulable after he returned from America, but I think Adrian was closer to Joey in Peter's era in pcertain way's and sure personality wise too. Though there were good scenes between Graham and Johnathan Morris too, but I think by this time Adrian's character had changed too and that was different to scenes (brotherly-wise) between Adrian and when Peter Howitt was Joey.

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Yeah I see what you mean there. I think for me I was thinking that Bickley's version shows more of an edge - or at least his edge is closer to the surface - possibly due to being more stressed out as he's been rumbled for some of his dealings which were occuring before.
As nregards the brothers relationships I struggle as you do, I think Joey generally tried to look after them and grew closer in an adult way to Jack in the later episodes, converseley he was much shorter with Billy in the later era.

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True I agree with you about Joey growing closer to Jack in an Adult brotherly relationship. Peter Howitt was different with Jack, and with Jack being the way he was with alway's loosing in his antiques buisness's before he went to America - he was less serious than the "Jack" who returned from America. Though that's not say Jack still did'nt become part of some crazy ideas that made him look silly after he came home!

I think though Graham as Joey even became intollerant towards Adrian at times, in-particular when Adrian came into money and started buying presents for everyone!

In saying this though I think it was summed up well in a line by Joey (Graham) in the 89 Xmas special to Adrian, when they talked about Roxy and Joey said "he had never actualy disscussed his private life with Jack", but yeah Joey to me seemed closer brotherly-wise to Jack in Graham's day's.

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Adrian was a bit annoying at times and the family often tolerated his moods and tantrums and general almost effeminate ways.
I think Joey just got a bit short with him at times

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True, yeah I guess Joey just was "short" with Adrian as you say.

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Hi tgrrrsss,
I read a link from (or another page from the BBC's article on Bread) and it said Carla Lane had wrote the first 5 Episodes of Series 5 (1989 Series) abd that is when Peter Howitt said he was quitting! So amazingly the "Tax Debt" storyline would of possibly welll of been Peter's story if he had stayed.

I can not imagine the change of character in Joey (regards Peter playing the role to involve such a storyline). It is interesting I think too, if the storyline/s may of been different in Series 5 ... if Peter had not quit.

Also how strange it would of seemed, if Peter had stayed but with Melanine still being the 2nd Aveline.

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Thanks for that, I didn't know that but I did know Howitt quite the show because he found the fame a bit too much and by that time he already decided he wanted to do a directing course and take his career in a different direction, as for his career what a brilliant pay off he got for a risky move...

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I know it was questionaable how Joey made his money until 1989 and all his past was exposed, but I can never never of imagined Peter Howitt in such a storyline that Graham Bickley was given.

Though obviously Carla had planned this (or at least so it appears) when Peter quit after 5 episodes were wrote, so obviously it more than probably could of been Peter's storyline - but I wonder how much might or might not of been re-written. i can just not imagine Peter in the scenes from the start of the 1989 Series, like shouting at the others at the alotment but he'd sure of made that Hunter guy more convincing.

That was a non convincing line for how Joey reacted with the Hunter guy and though Hunter acted poor in the scene it made it slightly more convincing!

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i didnt like the 2nd joey at all

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