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I'm underwhelmed by this film


I know finding flaws with this film and in particular Mickey Rourke is going against the grain, but I disliked some aspects of it.
For one thing the character of White is supposed to be a vietnam vet. Mickey Rourke was in his late twenties when this was made, and in spite of the "great makeup job" he still looks, sounds and acts like someone in their late twenties.
This is particularily noticeable in scenes with Whites' wife and the police chief Unless he joined the army when he was about ten, that's problematic.
Secondly, the character of White is a giant hippocrate. He's constantly putting down the Chinese, when he himself is Polish, but hides the fact by using a fake Anglo-Saxon name.

Deserves got nothing to do with it
Bill Munny, Unforgiven

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Hello, my name is Mr.Goatlips and I shall be your teacher this term for both History and Math(s).

This film was made in 1985, Mickey Rourke was born in 1954 and the Treaty of Paris, to withdraw troops from Vietnam, was signed in 1973, when he was around 19 years old.

In 1965 Vietnam seemed like just another foreign war, but it wasn't. It was different in many ways, and so were those who did the fighting. In World War II the average age of the combat soldier was 26...In Vietnam he was 19.
In inininininin Vietnam he was 19.
In inininininin Vietnam he was 19.
In inininininin Vietnam he was 19.
N n n n nineteen.

http://www.laborgroups.org/PaulHardcastle-19Vietnam.mp3


Meatball walks into a restaurant, Manager says, "Sorry, we don't serve fagg*ts."

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Its a movie bro!!!

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This film was made in 1985, Mickey Rourke was born in 1954

No he wasn't, he was born in 1956.

In inininininin Vietnam he was 19(when the Vietcong stormed Saigon in 1975, thus he would have been a little bit late for the war itself). Besides his character in the movie is way older, than Rourke was at the time. This is evidenced by the fact that "his buddy from the old neighbourhood" looks like he could be Mickey Rourkes father.

Republicans dont watch stand up, theyre busy watching cartoons, trying to see who's gay.

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1954, according to the Bart Mills biography (and perhaps earlier according to his autobiography). But, whoopee, let's say he was 17, why don't you spread your insight to the King Kong forum?...Apparently Andy Serkis plays a 30ft Gorilla!

Anyone who claims to be from "The Irish Free State" is obviously just an opinionated loser. Go and chomp on your mouldy potatoes, or be greatful for 'us' English...although personally I'd have let you "Pig-eyed micks"(Bob Hoskins, The Long Good Friday) starve.

Meatball walks into a restaurant,Manager says,"We don't serve f@ggots"

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and besides, Rourke doesnt look in his late twenties here. he looks more like late thirties

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Hello, my name is Mr.Goatlips and I shall be your teacher this term for both History and Math(s).

This film was made in 1985, Mickey Rourke was born in 1954 and the Treaty of Paris, to withdraw troops from Vietnam, was signed in 1973, when he was around 19 years old.

In 1965 Vietnam seemed like just another foreign war, but it wasn't. It was different in many ways, and so were those who did the fighting. In World War II the average age of the combat soldier was 26...In Vietnam he was 19.
In inininininin Vietnam he was 19.
In inininininin Vietnam he was 19.
In inininininin Vietnam he was 19.
N n n n nineteen.


Hilarious!!
And BTW, in 1985 when this film came out, this was number one in the UK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZCPrnmI4d4

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White hides his real name by using a fake Anglo-Saxon name, but there was a scene when somebody called him "Staszek".

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Ghostshadow187 sez: "Secondly, the character of White is a giant hippocrate. He's constantly putting down the Chinese, when he himself is Polish, but hides the fact by using a fake Anglo-Saxon name."

That's about the silliest argument I've ever heard. Of course he is a hypocrite, the whole movie revolves around the fact that he is full of contradictions. Can't a good movie have a main character with faults?

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Everything is a farce compared to death.

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Mickey Rourke's born in 1950,he was 35 years old when he takes the role of Stanley White in this movie.There's a lot of contradictions about Mick's real year of birth,but in his biography set for the 80's,he claims he's born in 1950.At age of 35 in this movie,i think its normal Stanley White been a vietname vet.Of course is character was a bit older,thats the reason of grey hair,but perhaps 7 or 8 years more than Mick's age at the time.What's WRONG with that? Mickey was 33 years old in Rumble Fish time and plays a character with just 23.That PROOVES this man is a CHAMELEON of actin and the MAIN ACTOR of his generation.
YEAR OF THE DRAGON is a GREAT MOVIE,i give it 8.5/10!!


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Harry Angel/Johnny Favourite

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Great movie.

I don't see the problems that the original poster writes about. And even if they were valid points, how could you not get past them, and appreciate the rest of the film?

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i think tracey saw something in stanley, she saw anger not racist in him, she just like to say that him to keep herself at a distance

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"The direction lacked a bit"

Do you mean Cimino's directing (of the actors) Cold-Fusion?

In what way?

Ariane's performance was (very unfairly) slaughtered by (self-important) critics, however, this was mainly due to the dialogue in her early scenes being unnatural. She is perfectly adequate throughout the rest of the film. But her poor first scene in the restaurant should have been re-shot and, you're right, that was probably Cimino's fault that it wasn't*. Also remember, she played a news reporter, who are wooden (wanna-be actors) in real life anyway.

The rest of the acting in this film is first class.


Whilst I'm on the subject (and I'm not accusing Cold-Fusion of this), 99.999% of people here at IMDB seem to think that the film we see is entirely the work of the director . Sure, some directors delegate less than others and watch over all crew beneath them like a hawk**, but, a director's true role is what the title implies - directing the actors. If they're directing someone like Tom Hanks/Cruise then they don't really need to do anything at all (...unless they want a different performance from them )! Personally, I feel the most important crew member is the director of photography (cinematographer)...backed up with a good (musical) score, screenplay, budget/producer and cast, etc. If you have a great cast, a decent director isn't even needed, my dog could do it.

*This is why Stanley Kubrick IS the greatest director of all time. Not because of his films, but because he (probably) had OCD (obsessive-compulsive disorder) and would make his performers retake some scenes 100 times! (...or was that only when he was trying to get something new from Tom Cruise whilst making Eyes Wide Shut )

**...And this is, partly, why George Lucas couldn't direct TO SAVE HIS LIFE during the new Star Wars films (... The acting in those films was truly shameful...except for Yoda...who was CGI).


Goatlips

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