Does anyone know if there is footage of Matthew Modine or the directors talking about the choreography of the wrestlers? Modine looks like he knows what he's doing out there. I'm also curious if anyone knows anything about the actor who played Shoot? I imagine he was some high school or college wrestler who appeared in this one film- but he looks like he could have been an action star of some type. Any info would be great.
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You can definately tell Modine had never been a wrestler.
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As a matter of fact I saw an interview in 1998 that Matt Modine mentions that he did in fact Wrestle in high school. weather he was state championship material I don't know but he did wrestle and In my opinion it shows in the movie
shareFor the most part the wrestling in the movie was fine for a movie, the only thing that annoyed me was when they were preparing to face the school that was known for double chicken wing pinning combinations. Anyone who has ever wrestled knows that you have to be pretty pathetic to get caught in a double chicken wing.
shareDamn straight! If you're caught in a double chicken wing, that means you've long since run out of gas.
shareconsidering the fact that modine reaches back about 18 times in his match with shutte, doesnt sprawl, and only lat drops and fireman's carry's, my guess would be that he didn't wrestle in high school. he also ties up shoulder to shoulder, blocking out his own shots. both stance's are atrocious, involving both of them standing with one leg leading by about two feet begging for the other to do a single on them. and wen shutte does do a single, he never throws in a whizzer, he just jumps in the air, asking to be destroyed. i had to get that off my chest. people who wrestle, back me up on this
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I agree that the technical advisor should have been suped on his head...way too many throws, but that's the stuff that's sexy to non-wrestlers to see. Nobody other than us wrestling junkies would want to watch two hours of someone being taken down and let up.
sharewow you are dumb... yes he did wrestle in high school, but now he is an actor. that wasnt a real live wrestling match, it was choreographed. He probably didnt really do nothing but throws and firemens, thats what they set up for the movie. and of coarse he didnt sprawl like it was a real match, he was "acting" and letting shute get the takedown.
sharePennsylvania high school has the most D1 all americans in college...I wrestle in college...trust me, PA has the best high school wrestling in the country...period.
shareOf course you all know that at the high school level the toughest state for wrestling is OHIO.
shareuh I would beg to differ Mr. Carpenter, being a former wrestler from the state of Iowa and all.
shareIowa has the greatest college wrestling program of all time. HS? Not sure.
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I'd have to go with Iowa as the best wrestling state, seeing as they come to Illinois tourneys each year and just wreck house. But relating to the absurd amount of throws in the movie, it could be somewhat understandable for Louden to use so many, seeing as it's only his second year of wrestling in the movie, so I wouldn't expect him to be an excellent technician with, say, a good anklepick or some other surefire takedown. Plus, I wouldn't want to try and ride out Shute :)
shareJacob Volkman of the University of Minnesota used to pin guys all the time wiht the double arm bar. Guys that were multiple time state champions in high school and All Americans in college. It is not a cheap move or a move that "only works against puds". It's a technique that if done right can be used to turn people, scoring points and falls. Volkman isn't the only one that was able to use this move successfully either. I just figured that naming a three time All American and BIG 10 champion would help to justify my point.
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