NO NO NO NO F-ING NO! - Vision Quest (1985) Discussion

[–] Reggie67 15 years ago

God no, please. Not him. I'm not necessarily against a re-make, but use somebody else.

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[–] gabby_bm 15 years ago

Didn't know who he was, so I had to look him up.

Does every kid have to look like someone related to a Jonas Brother or a charisma-less Abercrombie and Fitch model? I liked Modine because he looked just about as average as he could be- with the body tone of a high schooler rather than someone who's gunning for a job with Calvin Klein.

I'm holding everyone to a higher standard- a standard much higher than my own

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[–] SendMe581 15 years ago

I know this is totally my role that this kid is stealing from me. i wouldnt have to act at all, i would just have to be me!! why cant they get a no names kid out of highschool or somthing to play the role?

Ill catch you on the flip side.

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[–] Bubba_Strangelove 14 years ago

If this is true, I hope the world ends in 2012.

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[–] Caveman1223 14 years ago

I realize I'm responding quite a bit after the original post, thankfully, this does not appear to be true anymore. If the notion that Vision Quest needs to be remade ever comes back, I'm going to be very pissed off. This is one of the all-time classic sports movies and should not be remade.

Furthermore, why does everything have to be remade nowadays? Why can't things just be as good as they're going to get the first time they're done?

What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas... Except herpes, that *beep* come back with you.

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[–] gabby_bm 14 years ago

I agree! How about re-making the CRAPPY movies instead? Ones that had good potential?

I refuse to change my position just because you use logic

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[–] ohmixmaster 13 years ago

"If this is true, I hope the world ends in 2012."

Oh how true. My God they remade Footloose, rappers steal 80's songs, and Hollywood is going at every other iconic movie ever made. What's next, a remake of The Godfather staring Zac Effron and Selena Gomez? Lets hope this is a joke.

"Religion is the opiate of the people" - Karl Marx

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[–] Falconeer 11 years ago

why the hell not? Lautner is a wrestler, and he's obviously built like one..in fact he is an impressive athlete all around. Who else would be a better choice? I understand hating those stupid "Twilight" movies, but that was just a job for all actors involved. Taylor Lautner is NOT "Twilight;" he's an up and coming actor who was born to play athletic roles like "Vision Quest." There aren't many films made about wrestling, so we should be happy if the film gets made. Exactly what do people have against Lautner? i can't figure it out..

"IMdB; where 14 year olds can act like jaded 40 year old critics...'

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[–] Falconeer 11 years ago

While I'm usually against remakes, "Vision Quest" really is the perfect film to be remade. It has a good story, but it is extremely flawed, and it could be done so much better. first off, it is embarresingly dated, with that relentless 80's music blasting in the background constantly. i think if they played that corny Madonna song one more time i might have puked. second of course, is that cheesy, lame romance between the main character and that older woman with the helmet hair. i mean wtf was THAT? The movie is supposed to be about wrestling, but %75 of it focuses on this silly romance. The biggest problem with this "wrestling film" is that there is hardly any on screen wrestling! Yeah, I believe the only movies that should be remade are the ones that were done wrong the first time around. Remake "Vision Quest," axe the romance and corny music, concentrate more on the interaction between the wrestlers, and most of all, lets see some actual wrestling in the film! There are almost no movies on this subject, so a new wrestling movie should be welcomed by fans! As far as Taylor Lautner goes; what is wrong with casting him? He has the perfect wrestlers build...and he is a wrestler in real life. in fact he is an all around athlete in general; what other Hollywood actor has these qualities. Forget the stupid "Twilight" movies; that is all over with. Lets just hope that if "Vision Quest" is remade, it is done in the style of an indie film, and not some huge budget Hollywood garbage.

"IMdB; where 14 year olds can act like jaded 40 year old critics...'

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[–] The_TJT 9 years ago

What a worthless review. The soundtrack and the 80s feel is the best part of the film. Madonna's surprising cameo, the unconventional romance with Fiorentino etc are exactly what makes this film decent still today. The film is not "supposed to be about wrestling", that is just your expectation/misconception. What you really wanted was to see another film, perhaps The Wrestler (2008). But your expectations don't make the best elements of this film a mistake - these elements are exactly what makes this film enchanting and provide some originality to otherwise formulaic sports story. This film was not about wrestling, it was coming of age story about realizing one's ambitions and place in life.

Obviously you didn't live the 80s and your signature must be autobiographical in nature.

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[–] Falconeer 9 years ago

I'm happy that YOU like "Vision Quest." Unfortunately that does not mean that it isn't a poor movie. The 80's feel is actually the best thing about this. And Madonna's song "Gambler" is one of my favorite songs to come out of that decade. But the relationship was very corny, and playing that love song every 10 minutes was downright annoying. Now an example of a good sports themed film from the 80's would be "Youngblood." That movie had it all, including a romance that was fun and sexy, and actually romantic. It's also very 80's, but that only adds to the enjoyment. And "Youngblood" isn't corny, after all these years. The relationship between the two brothers was a lot more deep and interesting than some teenager getting all hot for the older woman boarder. That isn't romance, it's just a teenage boys wet dream. And if you want to see a truly fine coming of age movie from the 80's, consider "Reckless" with Daryl Hannah and Aiden Quinn. That film is a beautiful, atmospheric love letter to teen angst and finding yourself. Plus it features an incredible, new wave soundtrack that fits the images on screen perfectly. And the sexual chemistry between the two leads is hot enough to make the wallpaper peel off the walls. "Crossroads" with Ralph Macchio is another great movie from that time. I'm just saying, there are great 80's movies..I just don't think that "Vision Quest" is one of them. Unlike the other films I mentioned, it hasn't stood the test of time.

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[–] The_TJT 9 years ago

I'm happy that YOU like "Vision Quest." Unfortunately that does not mean that it isn't a poor movie.

Vice versa you not liking it doesn't mean that it is...

For example Ebert gave it 3,5/4 stars... which would translate as a 9 IMDB rating. Not that I'd always agree with Ebert but the point being that it might not be as flawed as you claim and can even be considered very good by professional critics.

The 80's feel is actually the best thing about this. And Madonna's song "Gambler" is one of my favorite songs to come out of that decade.

Then you managed to fool me with your previous post where you criticized the music and even Fiorentino's hair, which was a bit too much imo. I certainly was annoyed by your post yesterday, so my apologies if my reply was a bit testy. :)

Fiorentino looked just about perfect for the role, imo... that kind of hair do was considered cool back in the day, believe it or not. I think it still is.
Many people here have praised the soundtrack, I thought it really captured the time great.

I didn't remember the song Gambler... but Madonna's "Crazy for you" is a good song and fit the film really well imo. Of course that's a matter of taste.

But the relationship was very corny, and playing that love song every 10 minutes was downright annoying.

Actually they used two "love themes":
- Madonna - Crazy For You, on three occasions... one of which live performance.
- Journey - Only The Young, couple times I think... towards the beginning and in the end.

So they really didn't play one song over and over, the soundtrack had 17 songs...
Which I think probably adds to rewatchability factor a lot.

Now an example of a good sports themed film from the 80's would be "Youngblood." That movie had it all, including a romance that was fun and sexy, and actually romantic. It's also very 80's, but that only adds to the enjoyment. And "Youngblood" isn't corny, after all these years.

I agree that Youngblood is very good, I have it at 8/10 currently.

The relationship between the two brothers was a lot more deep and interesting than some teenager getting all hot for the older woman boarder. That isn't romance, it's just a teenage boys wet dream.

Well yes it had a bit of that... then again the boy was 18 and the girl was (arguably) 21. Not that big a difference. Fiorentino also played older woman, closer to her real age, on another 1985 film called "Cotcha!"... which is closer to your claim I feel. (yet still a very nice film imo). Any case, Vision Quest isn't exactly "Weird Science"...

I think you don't give enough credit for the "romance" part of the film... imo it was exactly Fiorentino's character and the not that run of the mill angle on romance which was interesting in it. Different is good. What if every film had same story...

Would be interesting to hear what you think/thought about the film "The Last American Virgin (1982)"... which is very much like any other 80s teen flick - and then again isn't. I would rate that film perhaps a 6-7 but the part which was original made an impression which resulted to 8.

I'm not saying that Vision Quest is a masterpiece by any stretch of imagination... but it does have its quirks and likability, least of which is not the soundtrack or Fiorentino's character. I rated it a 7/10, although I can easily imagine developing a stronger liking for the film with additional viewings.

And if you want to see a truly fine coming of age movie from the 80's, consider "Reckless" with Daryl Hannah and Aiden Quinn. That film is a beautiful, atmospheric love letter to teen angst and finding yourself. Plus it features an incredible, new wave soundtrack that fits the images on screen perfectly. And the sexual chemistry between the two leads is hot enough to make the wallpaper peel off the walls. "Crossroads" with Ralph Macchio is another great movie from that time. I'm just saying, there are great 80's movies..I just don't think that "Vision Quest" is one of them. Unlike the other films I mentioned, it hasn't stood the test of time.

I guess we'll just have to disagree on Vision Quest then.
Reckless doesn't have very good ratings overall, but I'll consider it.
Crossroads is a solid 7 imo, not quite Karate Kid level but still good.

For the record, my two very favourite 80s teenage flicks are "Wargames (1983)" and magnificent "The Breakfast Club"... Both have lots of 80s feel while the former has perfect pacing and storytelling and the latter has great characters plus dialogue.

I guess "The Breakfast Club" could be classified as "coming of age" film, which would make it best of its genre of any decade, imo.

If you like to expand your repertoire on films about (show-)wrestling then I recommend "The Wrestler (2008)" and "All the Marbles (1981)", which are both really good on entirely different ways. The first one is much more serious in tone while the latter is simply lovable fluff.

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[–] robocop-37224 8 years ago

Yes and knowing Hollywood(race) the film would have an all black cast! Shaking myF ucking head!

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[–] robocop-37224 8 years ago

Unless you were in High school in the 80's, especially the early 80's, then you have no idea what theH ell you're talking about. It's something that cannot be recreated. The look..the feeling..the music.. The locations.. some movies can be,and have been, re-made with some success however not this one. Leave it alone and move on to something else like Root's. And it's about the Louden Swain ,who is a high school wrestler dealing with his life, what he wants to do, and what he wants to change about it.

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