lol....I hate Alec. He's a total douche bag. HE cheats, then treats Leslie like she's in the wrong. (Plus he resembles the ex-husband). Billy is a tool. Kirby is a stalker. Jules is "poor little me my daddy hates me."
Plus there is the creepy clown head in Jules bedroom!
However, I still love watching this movie.
I was thinking the same. None of the characters are likable. They're just ridiculous. And yet it was a big hit back in 1985. Not sure how but interesting to see how big The Brat Pack would be in that time period.
shareThey are so "over-caricaturized" and cliché it's pathetic; the only reason that I, personally, watch the movie is because I love the scenes in and around the city of Georgetown.
shareTo quote a much better character in a much better '80s flick, "Because you're an idiot," Veronica Sawyer, Heathers.
Which makes at least 2 of us. I HATE this movie, I HATED the people who liked it (and seemed to model their meaningless, superficial lives on it) way back when, but guess what I'm watching?
Actually tuned in and logged on to try to finally understand what anyone saw in it. I get the nostalgia, I get the pleasure of seeing characters similar to people you know/knew on the screen, but none of that changes the fact that it's a BAD soap opera about largely bad people.
Agreed. I think some of the allure must have came from the hit of The Breakfast Club which was released a few months prior (which had moody high school characters). Because otherwise it's hard to imagine how this film could not only be a hit film in '85 but looked upon fondly by its fans.
shareWell three of the actors from The Breakfast Club are in this as we know. It probably also has a lot to do with all the hype over Brat Pack/John Hughes type movies back then and the nostalgia associated with them now. I was watching some show about eighties nostalgia flicks hosted by Ally Sheedy and Molly Ringwald. They were talking about this movie and Molly said: "Why wasn't I in this movie?" and Ally replied: "You were too young!" You got the impression that like the characters in these movies, the actors were all really good friends.
Don't let anyone ever make you feel like you don't deserve what you want.
Great answer.
I read that Estevez was good pals with Nelson and Lowe.
How big of a hit was St. Elmo's Fire back in 1985 compared to The Breakfast Club?
I graduated high school in 1985 and always thought that 16 Candles, Breakfast Club, and St. Elmo's were kinda joined together in an odd way. Obviously 16 Candles took place in junior high school, Breakfast Club took place in high school, and St. Elmo's took place right after college graduation.
Not sure of which film grossed the most money, but Breakfast Club seems like the winner here. It certainly was memorable and had a hit song attached to it. St. Elmo's Fire also had a hit theme song but I don't recall it being as popular as Breakfast Club. I think 16 Candles falls into 3rd place.
16 Candles wasn't Junior High School! Samantha was turning 16... not 13. Even the Geek said she was "sophomore meat". Sophomore = 10th grade = high school.
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I guess Pretty in Pink has to fit in somewhere as well??
shareI always felt they were connected too... but then maybe it's because I loved the Bowling for Soup song, 1985: "I've seen all the classic, I know every line. Breakfast Club, Pretty In Pink, even St. Elmo's Fire." Hahaha, that's always been one of my favorites by that band. I actually hadn't seen any of those films when I heard that song, but now I've seen them all. The 80's would have been an interesting time to grow up in, but I think I was born in the right decade... the 90's.
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The 80's would have been an interesting time to grow up in, but I think I was born in the right decade... the 90's.
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It was the 'right' time for you to be born; but what do you mean by the 'right' decade? I lived through the 80's and 70's and the bland, dreary 90's had nothing on these 2 periods. The very early part of the 90's, wasn't too bad.
I was raised in the 70's when things still seemed fresh and new, and when "less seemed like more". Actually, the 50's seemed nice also.
shareI was 12 when this came out so I never watched it and always told myself around 1989 to 90 that I should watch it. I finally got around to watching it today lol it only took me 25 years. It was cool but weird at the same time, if you want my honest opinion it made me think about a Seinfeld episode, it felt like a movie about nothing. It does remind me though of how happy go lucky / smooth sailing the 80's felt but it really doesn't have a story that makes me want to watch it again. I would still prefer 16 Candles & Breakfast Club over this but I am glad I watched it at least once. I have yet to watch Pretty in Pink & Some Kind of Wonderful, those are next on my list. The coolest thing about never watching this but finally getting around to it was to see how young all the actors were in it. That was fun
shareThey were all douchers in their own way...with more angst than Reality Bites.
But we are talking Joel Schumacher here, who also penned such erudite fare as Car Wash, The Wiz, and DC Cab.
Whose idea was it for the word "Lisp" to have an "S" in it?
It's a bad movie. They took a bunch of young stars, threw them together and expected something great to happen, but it didn't. They publicized it heavily, so people remember it well, but there wasn't much good about it.
share They publicized it heavily, so people remember it well, but there wasn't much good about it.
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The film is a prime example, of what superficial and pandering Hollwood, can be all about. The music was good and the look of the film was 80's stylish, so it does have some positive attributes to it's credit. I watch it for a good laugh and to see how far we HAVEN'T come. I love picking the film to pieces. I recommend ABOUT LAST NIGHT-86', with Lowe and Moore. Far superior relationship film and more realistic, with an excellent, witty script and decent acting.
I watch to see Demi Moore grinding on the juke box during the "Let's Rock" Halloween scene. Unintentional comedy at it's finest.
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