'I am very beautiful' - Silverado (1985) Discussion

[–] rizdek 19 years ago

"Rosanna Arquette character always talking about how beautiful she thought she was..."
Watch it again...I think the most you'll find her saying is something to the effect that men who want her for her looks usually don't want to go along with what she finds important...putting down roots, growing things, enjoying the land. Something to that effect. I didn't see that as egotistical, but more of a statement of what she found of value in life.

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[–] asc85 19 years ago

I found a screenplay online (incredible!), and I found the lines I was looking for. I'm not sure this is necessarily the final screenplay, but here's the part I was thinking of:

HANNAH
Mr. and Mrs. Parker have agreed to
join their parcel to mine. We'll
work them together.
(she points)
Mine starts right over there. It's
all I've ever wanted. Pretty land,
isn't it?

PADEN
(nods, looking at her)
And a pretty lady.

She turns to face him with a clear-eyed gaze that is almost
scary.

HANNAH
A lot of men have told me that. Maybe
it's true. I guess some women are
slow to believe it.

PADEN
Believe it.

HANNAH
They're drawn to me by that. But it
never lasts.

PADEN
Why?

HANNAH
Because they don't like what I want.

PADEN
What's that?

HANNAH
(turns back toward
her view)
I want to build something, make things
grow. That takes hard work -- a
lifetime of it. That's not why men
come to a pretty woman.

He shakes his head, agreeing, though she cannot see it.

HANNAH
After a while, I won't be so pretty.
But this land will be.

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[–] snepts 8 years ago

Well, I am very beautiful, but most people don't see it. (And I'm not a woman, much less Deanna Durbin. I just like the picture.)

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[–] MuleDeer 19 years ago

She may not be beautiful, but she's better looking than the midget. Bad choice, Kevin.

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[–] Deathstalker2 19 years ago

HAHAHA!

As far as Rosanna goes, I say watch the Euro cut of "The Executioner's Song." I fell in love with that girl after seeing her awesome bod in that.

Which is why I always stifle a laugh when watching "Silverado" and she says that line about "making things grow."

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"I know it's pretty damn weird to eat people." -Marv

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[–] silverr8c 14 years ago

I also saw the Euro cut of "The Executioner's Song." , I fell in love with her and still am to this day. In her prime she was one of the hottest women in Hollywood.

Of all the things I have lost I miss my mind the most

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[–] jejozi 11 years ago

About this high, owns a bar......I wonder if she had her teeth and had a flat spot on the top of her head......

This will be the high point of my day; it's all downhill from here.

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[–] rossasdf 18 years ago

I don't think her character really thought that she was beautiful but I'm sure a lot of men thought she was. You have to remember that she is a farmer and is dressed for a wagon train, not a saloon girl. In other movies she has a lot of nude scenes and I can assure you that she has a great body and some tig ol' bitties.

"Wipe them out, all of them."

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[–] duckncvr 18 years ago

Yah, I don't get how you think she's saying that she knows/thinks she's beautiful...? Or rather, how she seems to go on about being beautiful. The script you posted doesn't support your statement at all. She says that men have told her that in her life but she doesn't appear to really believe that. She at least doesn't consider that something important in life as it's soemthing that's not real or that will last. When she's no longer considered beautiful by men, then what will they want with her? She wants something real -- a home, land, something that lasts. Men don't go to a beautiful woman so that they can work the land next to them. She knows that one day she won't be beautful anymore, but the land and home she builds will be. She seems really level headed to me.

And remember it's not Roseanna Arquette that the script says is beautfiul, it's her character, Hannah. So, putting down poor Roseanna for her looks is kinda mean..! Actually, I always thought she was strange looking, but then I I read that Toto's song "Roseanna" was written about her, so, she must be very appealing in real life!

Dainty things never shrink from Lux!

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[–] historygeek-2 18 years ago

I agree that Hannah doesn't come across as impressed with her own looks. It's not something of value to her, and she knows that men who are impressed want her only for that. They did a great job of hiding it, putting her in clothes that concealed her rather than drawing attention to what she's got... which is impressive.

But I also think that she's incredible. While her face is a little odd, those big eyes give her that... something extra. And when she gets out of the matronly clothes and into some that show her off... Yowza!

As for Maxim and FHM lists, well remember that she's now pushing hard at 50. She was in her prime before those mags existed. But she was in Playboy, which was even better (he said with a leer).

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[–] darkling27 18 years ago

She posed for Playboy? Are you sure? I think she is sexy. Did you catch her scenes in the Van Damme movie, Nowhere to Run?

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[–] Bry-2 14 years ago

Playboy, September 1990.

http://www.lazygirls.info/Rosanna_Arquette/Playboy_1990_irfKGmP

--If they move, kill 'em!

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[–] alvink 18 years ago

roseanna arquette is a mega babe. and i agree, in the movie, she does not say that she is beautiful, she says that 'men find her beautiful'. one of my favorite fantasies is to kiss her for ten minutes- no intercouse, just kiss her beautiful lips for ten minutes. hey! am i crazy or what???? 42

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[–] Ironman54 14 years ago

Her scene in 'The Whole Nine Yards', in the car with the cop/contract killer.... oh man...

Not beautiful in the 'classic' (?) sense but sexy as hell ! The original drummer for 'Totto' (and excellent drummer btw) Jeff Porcaro, RIP, wrote the song about her. They had been an 'item' for a while - lucky rock stars...

*I should retract that last bit - as it turns out Jeff was not so 'lucky' having died from an allergic reaction to the weed killer he was spraying around his yard. Married with kids and all...a damn shame.

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[–] Bilwick1 14 years ago

After Paden tells her she's beautiful, she actually says: "Really? I thought you were into midgets."

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[–] scarred2112 13 years ago

Just as a clarification of Fact, while many people and places cite the "Allergic Reaction" (even on Toto's Official Website) because Jeff sprayed his yard before his death, the Los Angeles County Coroner's office lists the cause of death to have been a heart attack from the hardening of the arteries caused by cocaine use.

...and yes, Rosanna was A Babe And Then Some in the '80s... :-D

"I think the biggest challenge is not to write the wrong music" - W.G. "Snuffy" Walden

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[–] IceboxMovies 13 years ago

In retrospect, her character in the movie is not very well-developed. First she falls for Kline. Then she arbitrarily falls for for Scott Glenn (!??). And nothing is made of either relationship! Methinks Kasdan and Carole Littleton left most of Rosanna's scenes on the cutting-room floor.

"What I don't understand is how we're going to stay alive this winter."

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[–] HowYaLikeDemApplesWill 12 years ago

"Los Angeles County Coroner's office lists the cause of death to have been a heart attack from the hardening of the arteries caused by cocaine use"

That's very interesting, and possibly true. However, without knowing someone's lifestyle, i.e. that of a rock star, no coroner could make this determination.

Atherosclerosis, or "hardening of the arteries", is a condition in which an artery wall thickens as a result of the accumulation of fatty materials such as cholesterol.

So smoking, a sedentary lifestyle, cheeseburgers, or lack of sleep, could just as easily been the culprit, as cocaine use.

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[–] Bob_Zerunkel 12 years ago

Actually, they make those determinations all the time. After all, that is the one and only purpose of a coroner.

Most doctors agree that cocaine is much worse than eating cheeseburgers or sitting on a couch.

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[–] HowYaLikeDemApplesWill 12 years ago

Very true, but at the end of the day, it is still just their opinion, and in some cases, little more than an informed guess...

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[–] TrumpIsAHump 12 years ago

"The original drummer for 'Totto' (and excellent drummer btw) Jeff Porcaro, RIP, wrote the song about her. They had been an 'item' for a while - lucky rock stars...

"I should retract that last bit - as it turns out Jeff was not so 'lucky' having died from an allergic reaction to the weed killer he was spraying around his yard. Married with kids and all...a damn shame."

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That would of course be TOTO, and STEVE Porcaro (Jeff's brother) who was one of the keyboard players in the band, and was dating Rosanna Arquette at the time the song was written. However, the song was actually written by David Paich, the other keyboard player in the band, and the song was not actually about Rosanna Arquette (according to Wikipedia):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosanna_(song)

You might want to get your spelling and facts straight before you try to dazzle us with your knowledge. About the only thing you got right was that Jeff Porcaro was an AMAZING drummer, and he died too soon (but not from an allergic reaction to weed killer).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Porcaro

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[–] corek1949 14 years ago

I think you will find that these are lines in the script, so blame the script writer or director for making her say them

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[–] johnf_sf 13 years ago

BUTTER FACE

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[–] arbitrarydissent 13 years ago

You should be shot for this statement. The point was that her beauty would diminish as the demands of the land would increase. Check out "SOB" and see her tits before you condemn. Better yet watch "The Wrong Man" She is very beautiful. If anybody has the right to say that she is beautiful it is Rosanna Arquette. Silverado is the best western ever made and R A makes it so. JMHO

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[–] Bilwick1 13 years ago

" First she falls for Kline. Then she arbitrarily falls for for Scott Glenn (!??). And nothing is made of either relationship!"

Did she actually "fall" for either? I didn't get that impression. Unless there were, in fact, deleted Rosanna Arequette scenes (and the commentary in the Special Edition DVD indicates there may be), I think she was just considering relationship options. I susupect that Kasdan was laying the groundwork for a sub-plot in a possible sequel, which the closing scene seems to be clearly setting up, but which was never made.

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[–] Nikon11 12 years ago

I agree - never really get her part in the movie. And maybe there's really nothing to get, and that it's just filler - or they felt like they needed some sort of vague love interest, for some reason.

Or as you say, they planned on a sequel, and this was setting it up.

I cringe every time when she speaks those lines about being beautiful, and the land, and not being beautiful forever, or whatever, blah, blah, blah

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[–] MurphAndTheMagicTones 12 years ago

I don't think she fell for either, but she figured both had a lot more to them than the average clown who hits on her.

Plus, her husband got killed trying to get the money back. Maybe she still liked him more than the rest of us did. The guy was kind of a weenie.

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"You expect me to talk?"
"No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!"---Goldfinger

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[–] TrumpIsAHump 12 years ago

By Old West standards, Rosanna Arquette would have been considered one smokin' hot piece of @ss!

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[–] residentevil6901 11 years ago

I've always thought of her as a bit of a butterface so I know what your saying.

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[–] hankpac 11 years ago

I think in Boston, she would have been average. In Silverado, or anywhere out west, she'd be a "trail 8.5 or 9."
For there she was quite attractive, and could have her choice. I noticed that when Emmet was leaving for Ca, and probably not coming back for a very long time (or ever, with the way things were in those days) she and Paden were standing pretty close and friendly.

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