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Anti-American?

posted 16 years ago by adam262
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Anyone else get an anti-American taste left in their mouth after watching this awful movie? The Americans are depicted as total a**holes in this movie and Sutherland is supposed to be the villain but if you look closely, he actually isn't that bad. Back to the directors portrayal of Americans.

The Americans steal Pacino's boat, sign up his son, force him to sign up, whip him in the cornfields after a battle, deny him of promises made to him about money and land, and act like total idiots and jerks overall throughout the entire movie.

Oh and don't forget the director is English.

[–] reservoirdog1986 16 years ago

umm, the british are shown as stuck up snobs. i'd say the movie is more anti war than anything. it just shows that in a war ppl can be so cruel and evil without even knowing it.

[–] ronald-walker-1 15 years ago

The actor Marius Goring (he starred in "The Red Shoes") still enjoys a cult status in Germany, as one of few actors you could be hanged for listening to. He was the "voice" of the BBC's German language news service, during WW2. The BBC reported the news... good OR bad, unlike the Nazi's own propaganda service, which broadcast nothing but "good" news (even if they had to make it up!) Objectivity like that is something that Americans just don't seem to understand. What actually HAPPENED doesn't matter; the movie has to depict Americans in a GOOD light, or it's "Anti-American".

One rule for everybody else, and a DIFERENT rule for the USA. America, for example, doesn't support "Terrorists". Because people who BEHAVE like terrorists (and are supported by the USA) are simply relabelled "Freedom Fighters". Americans NEVER do ANYTHING bad. Because if it's Americans doing it... it's renamed and sanitized.

With "Revoltion", the director WAS indeed English. That means raised to believe that objectivity and truth are more patriotic than flag-waving propaganda. Worth noting that - like Spielberg's (very funny) "1941", which depicted Americans in a less-than-heroic light, Americans stayed home rather than going to see the movie. American ignorance is actually wilfull ignorance. They LIKE being ill-informed. Which would possibly explain why News International provides the UK with the (reasonably objective) "Sky News", and gives the USA the blatant propaganda that is "Fox News".

[–] tjmdds-748-82484 15 years ago

Objectivity? So, I suppose that all the liberal Anti-American crap out there is objective and anything Pro-American is propaganda. What actually happened in history, whether it be America or anything involving freedom is ACTUALLY irrelevant to Anti- American communists, progressives, etc. America doesn't as a country, slam planes into buildings and blow themselves up in honor of the "religion of peace". So, yes, they are TERRORISTS.

I've got news for you, we are not perfect, we have made mistakes, but we are still the best country on earth. No one or country is perfect, but we are the best imperfect country in the world.

Watched 1941 when i was a kid and never thought of it as "very funny", just mildy amusing. Spielberg is a joke anymore, just like all other libtards. They all blast America, just like you, but it's ok for them to make a fortune while doing so. They have no problem with capitalism when it comes to them making money, but everyone else should be serfs and live in mud huts. I say, blast away and go live in France if you hate this country so much.
Hypocrites.

Sky News reasonably objective? That's like saying Chris Matthews loves America.
Fox News is one network in America full of libtard garbage like PMSMBC, CNN and the major "news" networks. Don't spew that dribble, it's nonsense as well as your self righteous, elitist, holier than thou persona.

PA resident clinging to my guns and "left the 8th century" religion as well as waving my American Flag.

[–] TheWanderingFish 15 years ago

This is one of the funniest rants I've ever read on the IMDb. Thank you.

You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant

[–] Errington_92 10 years ago

I agree with a previous comment on Revolution being anti-war in some regards, such as the forcible capture of Dobb's ship and his son's draft. Though ultimately, the American revolution was shown as positive.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not.

[–] agracier-574-436194 10 years ago

France is actually a very nice country to live in. Quite safe too when it comes to firearm related deaths or police shootings.

I don't know why some Americans always love to stomp on France and put it down. You do know hopefully, that if it weren't for the French sending an expeditionary army and navy to the colonies during the War of Independence, the colonies would have remained British colonies.

This seems to be part of the historical amnesiac experience in the US. Imagine if this had been included in the movie ...

[–] spookyrat1 8 years ago

I don't think its anti-American. I think the idea with the ending is that it validates Pacino's character'behaviour in not racing in to initially support the revolutionaries, as we see the 'new establishment' once again getting ready to shaft the little guy.🐭

[–] newpapyrus 15 years ago

That scene sort of reminds me of the first episode of 'John Adams'. The Revolutionary war was not solely a rebellion against Britain. It was also a civil war since many folks were still loyal to the British Empire.

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