Van Damme vs Bruce Lee

I heard that Bruce Lee weighed around 130 pounds, and that he could bench press almost 4 times his weight. I heard that he could bench press around 380 pounds.

So did Chuck Norris!!

understandably bruce lee is rated as a great martial artist that he was but do you ever wonder if he has been overated somewhat i talk to some people and they seem to think he was a god literally like he could take on 10 armed van dammes and dodge bullets etc. I often wonder how people like lennox lewis or professional sumo wrestlers(im talking the big ones like yokozunos(sp)) would fare against him because obviously bruce lee could run rings around all sumo wrestlers but if one of them properly got him held tight bruce would not have the strength to break out (i understand his technique was impeccable but if he was fully chokeholded for example) or maybe if dolph lundgren faced him and got a few good blows on bruce (i never got the feeling bruce could take many punches ) it could have been different


ok enough of my ranting im going to give a list of fighters and i want to ask all of you what order would you put them in in terms of fighting ability ok heres mine by the way imagine if they were all in there prime

Bruce lee going on mostly his speed and his legend status
chuck norris hes fast and hes big
dolph lundgren and van damme(cant choose lundgren has weight and reach so probably him but what you dont see about van damme in his films is that he is a superb floor and grapple fighter apparently)
steven seagal apparently a major movie actor not so great at real fighting from what i read despite him being perhaps the highest rated dan black belt out of all of them not that owning a belt makes you hard as some bare knuckle boxers could probably take on some black belts etc.
feel free to add more

This thread is hilarious.Bruce would kick the crap out of every fighter mentioned in this thread.

Bruce Lee's films look very dated now,and the fighting in his films (from alot of the other fighters)looks very dated,but Bruce's fighting hasn't dated one bit.He's still the greatest IMO.

It's a joke to even compare other on screen fighters to him,because you can see in Van Dammes'films for instance the amount of quickly edited shots put together.Watch a Bruce Lee fight and the camera shows exactly what he is doing without any fast editing.You can see head to foot shots of him doing his thing.The speed of his punches and kicks were magnificent.Something like seven per second.And the camera was slowed down quite a bit when he was fighting to fully capture his delivery on film,and he still looks fast.

The only question about Bruce against any of these guys would be,could Bruce take any blows?It doesn't matter how good you are if you can't take the hits.And if Van Damme or Norris or whoever got a few blows in,he would have definetly felt them with his slight build.But it's a question that's irrelevent really because it wouldn't come to that.Even people who have questioned just how great he was have never denied the agility and power of him,so he would have taken out Van Damme,Norris and whoever else's weak points before they knew what was happening.

Technique always overcomes certain speed and weight, the secret is to put yourself in the position to manipulate joints, execute locks or submissions before your opponent utilises his speed and mass.