why was dennis quaid talking about mickey mouse?
did the screenplay writers not realize that mickey mouse would most likely not be remembered or even known by future generations...especially those fighting and interstellar war with lizard creatures??
i found that to be very silly
Well, we know Shakespeare, Beowulf, Antigone, and Gilgamesh. Were you alive when Romeo and Juliet was written? Yet I am sure you are familiar with the story. I'm sure SOMETHING from our time will survive the test of time. Who's to say what that would be. In this case the writters decided it would be Mickey Mouse. Given the popularity of this its not such a bad choice. Now if he would have made a reference to Anita Hill or some other obscure personality then I would be more prone to agree with you.
sharethe true question on this planet is who doesn't know who mickey mouse is??
thats why they used mickey mouse becouse dennis needed a sarcastic remark to louis's high preast leader whatever...
I agree.
Mickey Mouse isn't just a passing fad, the curtain hasn't dropped on this one since the early 1930's, after debuting in 1928 (http://www.characterproducts.com/info/character_histories/mickey_minnie_doorway.htm), and I think that time will show that he's really earned his place, even though others may not agree.
I may not be the biggest fan, but he'll be remembered for some time to come.
It helps, here, to have read the book. In the book, when Davidge and Jeriba first meet, Davidge yells something which he was taught during his USESF training, designed to totally enrage any Drac. "Kiz da youmeen, Shizumaat!" Meaning: Shizumaat, the most revered Drac philosopher, eats kiz excrement. Like telling a Moslem, "Mohammed is full of pig dung."
Jeriba, in horror then rage, replies with what we have to assume *he's* been taught is an ultimate insult to humans: "Irkmann (earthman), yaa stupid Mickey Mouse is!" It was pretty funny, kind of a comment on the quality of military intelligence (well... theirs, anyway).
It comes up again later, after they're friends, when Jeriba tells Davidge that he won't share Shizumaat's teachings because he can't forgive Davidge for what he said.... to which Davidge replies that he's willing to forgive Jeriba for what *he* said about Mickey Mouse. Jeriba relents, but asks Davidge if some day he'd share Mickey Mouse's teachings?
It didn't translate well into the movie, but of course it's rare that fine plot points do. :-)
Is there a book? Was the book written first? Is the book still available?
Thanks.
the book is as usually a lot better
shareEnemy Mine appeared in the September 1979 issue of Isaac Asimov's Science Fiction Magazine.
Enemy Mine later appeared as the middle third of Manifest Destiny by Barry B. Longyear, published May 1980.
At the rate in which Disney has gotten Congress to extend and rewrite copywrite and trademark law, and considering Mickey isn't simply a Disney character, but a trademark, Mickey might very well be around.
I think it is ironic that a company that made it fortune off of characters in the public domain is doing its best to insure that nothing new is reaching the public domain.
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"Re: anachronisms(warnin g spoilers)"
I don't know if knowing Mickey Mouse in the future can be considered anachronism. The examples of anachronisms I've seen on IMDB is usually the other way around. ie. an item in the movie that couldn't have existed because the timeframe of the movie predates the item.
Your example seem to fit just fine on a timeline, so there's no logical continuity issue. Just a case of whether an item of current day popular culture will still be remembered in the future. From a logical stand point, it most certainly can be.
toyguy.
that's really pretty stupid. there are so many flaws in this movie and you picked the mickey mouse thing. why shouldn't they know about mickey mouse? it's a classic.
nevertheless a nice movie
Don't you dig the funky pepsi cans too? This thread is micky mouse!
shareRemember the book was written about 30 years ago, so Barry probably wrote about the icons of that time. But, Disney may still be around in the 21-22nd century. who would have thought in the 1930's that Disney would still be around now?
Remember "Full metal Jacket" and the part the Mickey Mouse song played?
shareWho would have thought that Mickey Mouse would still be protected by copyright?
(Disney is the leading lobbyist working to extend the period for which characters are protected by copyright. Mickey Mouse is its oldest character. Without those efforts the character Mickey Mouse would have fallen into the public domain decades ago.)
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.................World wide more people know about Mickey Mouse then who the President of the United States is so the cartoon rodent might still be known late in the twenty first century. However given the way the football teams are sold and moved around the Housten Oilers might be called something else by then.
True genius is a beautiful thing, but ignorance is ugly to the bone.
However given the way the football teams are sold and moved around the Housten Oilers might be called something else by then.
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Excellent point! Who knows, they could someday be called the Tennessee Titans.
Exactly - and of course at a future point in time, even if a franchise is sold, that would not stop a later generation from starting a new franchise with the old name (as long as the old franchise wasn't using that name any more and was willing to license the old logos etc).
St. Louis Rams used to be in LA
LA Lakers used to be in Minneapolis (you don't see a lot of lakes in LA after all)
The Dallas Stars used to be the North Stars
I forget if it's the Titans that are the old Oilers franchise or if that was a different team, but they do move around a decent amount over the long term. There's no reason why Houston would not be able to have an Oilers team 100+ years from now.
Yes, it was the Titans that used to be the Houston Oilers and when Houston got themselves another franchise they opted to go with Texans instead of re-using Oilers (and said Texans have advanced in the NFL playoffs.) I remember when it was the L.A. Rams and the Cardinals (NFL) were in Saint Louis. I'm only familiar with the NFL because that's the only sport that I follow, and that only goes back to the 80s, so I don't know if a team has ever moved back to a former location or a city has gained a franchise and adopted an old, no longer used team name. I suppose that it could happen unless there were some sort of copyright protection in place.
shareI suppose that it could happen unless there were some sort of copyright protection in place.
they opted to go with Texans instead of re-using Oilers