Who's it based on?


Just watched this again for the third time in fifteen years or so. Struck me that it's still extremely watchable and as relevant now as when it was first made.

I don't agree with the point that the eco-message is shoved down our throats a little - although I do wonder, did Sting put any money into this, perchance? It was about this time that he was dragging round Amazonian indians on Wogan - a cruelty that must at least have ranked with having your native habitat torn down by greedy land developers...

It does seem extremely underrated - I would have expected more critical acclaim. It will have its day when the rest of the world catches up, though. I haven't met anyone who, when the film is mentioned, said they liked without adding an air of slight surprise, as if they'd expected it to be rubbish (probably why it took me so long to see it in the first place - that's exactly what I thought).

I'm interested to know more about the circumstances on which the film is allegedly based. Is it really a true story or is that just thrown in to add a bit of weight?

If anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd be very grateful.

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I love this film - I agree, it is totally underrated.

Sting had nothing to do with the funding or making of this film.

The film was inspired by a true story - John Boorman was shown an article that appeared in the Los Angeles Times in October 1972, written by Leonard Greenwood.

In the article the father searched for 16 years (I believe) and he found his son. This is as much as I know, if anyone knows anymore please post a message.

(I have tried to find a copy of the actual article, without success).

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Very good question indeed.

The ending seemed, to me at least, to be tailored made for a sequeal should the original have enjoyed a tad more acclaim at the time than it got (which was basically none.) Perhaps details, etc. were withheld to create a vacumn for the possible sequel, who can say.

But all these many years later, to never hear another word about it really bothers me. I am certain the "based on a true story" claim had a LOT to do with the way this movie captured my imagination and now I guess it just feels a little empty without a shred of additional info ever coming out. I mean when http://www.feralchildren.com/en/children.php lists babies and toddlers that were left alone even for only portions of a day and even takes the trouble to list details of some hoaxes, you'd think there'd be something for circumstances like this too SOMEWHERE.

Should anyone who *does* know something, ANYTHING come along, do please take this opportunity to enlighten those of us who are left wondering... just how true the "true story" was that this movie was supposedly based on because "based on a true story" could be as tiny as once a blond haired boy lived in Brazil for all we know, LOL!

Is Leonard Greenwood still around??? Hey Lenny!!!

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I recently watched the movie for the first time, and was also interested in reading the "true" story upon which it is based. Using the information from an earlier post, I looked up the article on ProQuest (I am at UCLA which has a subscription). I found it, though I am not sure if I can share it. The article is a pdf scan of the the actual paper and is formatted as an image. The relevant information about the article:

Long Hunt for Son Ends in Success, but---
LEONARD GREENWOOD
Los Angeles Times (1886-Current File); Oct 8, 1972; ProQuest Historical Newspapers Los Angeles Times (1881 - 1985)
pg. E10

To summarize:

A Peruvian father searched 11 years for his son, after the son was abducted by a "warlike" Indian tribe while the family was on a camping trip along the Javari Mirim river in Peru. The boy's father went through much hardship and eventually found his son's tribe (called Mayurunas).

The father (not named in article) asked to see the chief (tushawa) of the tribe and noticed that the chief looked markedly different from the others of the tribe. He was the man's son, and admitted that he remembered his father, but would not return to his father's world. After a few days they parted. Later the son sought out his father's home (near Iquitos) and told him more about his life as an Indian. The son related that he was having trouble ruling the tribe, and one of his older brothers accompanied him on his return trip to his home.

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Man thats quite a difference from the flick. I thought details like the journalist being eaten by the cannibals was true and made the film very creepy.

Guns don't kill people. Bullets do.

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It did not happen the way it was shown in the film. 90% of the film was completely made up. Boorman based the idea on Pallenberg's story which was based on the original case of a Peruvian (not American) laborer (not engineer) whose son (not a green-eyed blond) was adopted by and apparently lived the rest of his life with some Indian tribe -- probably not the Mayoruna, actually.

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The webpage is interesting. It is rather informative.

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Harlan Ellison talks about this film in his book "Harlan Ellison's Watching".

SCAN, which is a library reference network, tried to get some background on this. Director John Boorman said it was all his idea after reading the story in "the Times" in 1972. SCAN called the agent for Rospo Pallenberg, the original screenwriter. The agent said "It was Rospo who saw the story, not Boorman." He further revealed that what Pallenberg had written was a conglomeration of several stories. Further research revealed the LA Times article stating that it was a Peruvian (not American) lumber worker (not engineer) who lost and looked for his child.

SCAN reports, "On the radio program All Things Considered, Boorman said that he did not try to contact the (actual) father again because the story had been changed so much in the film that he didn't feel it really pertained to this father and son any more. But he had talked to an anthropologist who had visited the tribe recently and the son was still living with them, now aged about 35."

In the Times piece, the tribe was identifed as the Mayorunas. "This is rather strange (SCAN continues), because an article in "American Indigenous" (April-June 1975, pp. 329-347) reports on the Mayorunas, with a detailed census by age and sex, and does not mention that one of them was an adopted outsider." (Anthropological journal articles usually include information like that.) So we don't even know if it was that tribe.

Ellison: "... A writer of fiction, Rospo Pallenberg, was sparked into creating an interesting fiction by an idea proceeding from a news snippet. So far, okay. It was then bought or appropriated by John Boorman, who sold it to the Embassy honchos as "based on a true story" HE had read. From that point on, it was never really questioned... you and I went to that film, amazed at the bizarre and heartrending circumstances transmogrified from real life onto the silver screen. We were lied to, and we bought it..."

This doesn't prevent it from being a good story. But I knew it was made-up when I saw the promos, because the boy was a blonde American. That's so standard it's almost cliche. I was not at all surprised to hear he was actually Peruvian. It's traditional to excuse this type of dishonesty by saying "Well, they could have cast Peruvian actors, but the audience wouldn't be able to identify with them". Like nobody but white people ever go to the movies, or a good actor (working with a good script) wouldn't be able to make you identify with him no matter what race he was.

Ellison's (and my) main objection to this kind of dishonesty is that it insults viewers' intelligence. I'm still waiting to see a film that shows what really happened.

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Point taken, but to be blunt... that's what documentaries are for. The movie we see here is fiction based on a true story and uses that true story as a vehicle to make a larger, more universal point. Maybe as a documentary the actual story would be more interesting. But as a movie, The Emerald Forest was much more interesting to watch. The entire purpose of fiction is to dramatize events (real or just familiar) in order to tell a greater, more universal truth. i.e. Making the family from the United States and the son a green-eyed blond is far more interesting and symbolic than if he were a Peruvian boy of South American descent.

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I feel like I was lied to by this film. I still think it is a good movie but from what the previous posters have said it is hardly "based on a true story". It is more inspired by true events, true yet not specifically related events. Now it makes sense why there was no real 'where are they now' summary at the end. This movie touched on many different issues, and did it fairly well. Issues of weapons, prostitution, assimilation, and tribal lifestyle (including crazy cannibals - wtf) were all thrown into this 'save the environment' story and felt a little too much to be true while i was watching it. i guess it was. the story still would have felt honest if i knew that the info was gathered from various sources and cooked up in some guys imagination.

I think the film would have been better tagged with "Inspired by true events". At least then it is truly implied that most of the tale is made up.





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This is closer to how I feel about it. They could have put all that stuff in and left the protagonists what they really were.

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nitejrny, I absolutely agree -- the problem has been that so many people see "based on a true story" and think "documentary". Viewers in general are starting to wise up a bit, I think, though it depends on the subject material.

Possibly because I'm not entirely white myself, I'm not sure what's so much more interesting and symbolic -- or what universal truths were being portrayed -- to show the kid as a white, blond American. Well, other than the obvious Tarzan factor.

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It's more interesting to make the kid a blond white and American for two reasons...

One, he then represents the stereotype of the American or European exploitation of Latin America which is what the movie is partly about (i.e. American company coming into Brazil and tearing down the Amazon to build a power dam). So the irony that the symbol of the exploiters would become one of the exploited himself is great. Which causes the father to transform by the end when he attempts to blow up the dam. When it's his own son whose way of life is threatened in the name of progress, he goes from being a naive exploiter to a defender of the exploited.

Two, drama is about conflict and contrasts. What could be more dramatic and contrasting than a blond kid in native Amazonian dress? It makes you say WTF? What's the story behind that? Imagine watching a movie about an Ancient Samurai who takes off his battle mask to reveal he's a Jamaican Rastafarian. WTF? What's the story behind that?

It's a silly example, but you get my point. Extreme contrasts are dramatic and interesting and beg questions.

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I agree with Nite, storytelling in movies rely on symbolism & contrasts, this is what makes it dynamic for us moviegoers. I don't feel lied to by the movie. I never expected it to be an accurate rendition of a true story. After having read the description above of the Peruvian father, I was actually surprised that a boy was actually kidnapped or was acculturated into an Amazonian tribe & became its leader. The blond American kid with blue/green eyes made for excellent cinema & I liked that they went with that actually.



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I'd still rather see what really happened... it wouldn't necessarily have to become a documentary. There are plenty of movies where they show you, in general, what really happened, just compressing things for time. All The President's Men for instance.

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http://www.richardandmimi.com/truestory.html Someone scanned the article to this webpage.

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Hi. I have moved the Emerald Forest website to:
http://www.nativeamericanfilms.org/ef-truestory.html

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Thank you for sharing, this is so sad. I wonder if the tribe is still there?



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