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Wouldn't his siblings be different people in 1985


Since they fell in love in a later time, this mean the Mcfly’s conceived their children much later...

Wouldn’t the children be different? The house different?

You alter the past like Marty did, how come only the parents change?

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Well, it's indeed weird that all these changes that occured after what Marty had done in 1955 didn't affect their dicisions and made that exact three kids at the exact same time. Their marriage is clearly different in the altered timeline. So, probably the decision to make kids would have occured at a different time.

Anyway, yes, they probably would. I'd even say, they most likely would.

This being said: they didn't fall in love in such a considerable different time. It was a little bit less than a week later. So, I don't think that this gap is long enough to really alter these decisions concidering that they took them at the exact same time as in the first timeline of 1985. But the difference in their relationship in the altered timeline would definitely had played a big role in the difference of their decisions.

Just a little notice, it's also quite weird that they decided to live at the exact same house because the neighbourhood didn't seem really for rich people. So, concidering that he became a successful writer, he would have probably bought a better house in a better area of the town.

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Just a little notice, it's also quite weird that they decided to live at the exact same house because the neighbourhood didn't seem really for rich people. So, concidering that he became a successful writer, he would have probably bought a better house in a better area of the town.


I'm not sure he was a writer at that point. He had a better job in the second time line (I think he had Biff's managerial position) but I thought the book that arrived at the end was his first novel.

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If you look at Part II, all it took is that one little book by Biff...1985 totally change...

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You're correct. He wasn't a writer. When Biff brought in the box with the book and they opened the box, Lorraine even commented that it was his first novel.

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In Part II the news paper calls him "Local Author". And that is in both timelines. He was still an author, he just hadn't written a novel yet. He may have only written short stories to that point.

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If he'd been writing free-lance or had published short stories, then he wouldn't have made any money from it. He probably didn't make much from his first novel either, even if he bacame a well-known sci-fi writer he would never have made big money.

And I don't suppose Biff's job paid that much either, and there were still three kids to support, so I suppose it's plausible that things were only slightly better financially in the altered timeline. But the relationships and self-esteem levels were all different, that's what's supposed to matter.

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Movie Magic is responsible.

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It was only delayed by one week though, wouldn't make too much difference.

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Also their first kiss was still at the Fish/Enchantment Under the Sea Dance, and Lorraine said that's when she knew they would be together forever. So that part of the timeline is still consistent. Plus they probably weren't getting married until after graduation anyways

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I believe in this theory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTZSB3LM3DQ

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Suspension of disbelief is definitely required here because of the Butterfly Effect. Though it's not necessarily because they fell in love later than originally, but more because their character traits changed due to Marty's interference. George and Lorraine ended up growing as different people after high school. This would've affected their entire family. We never got to see how "Lone Pine" Marty, Linda and Dave got to grow up differently than "Twin Pines" Marty, Linda and Dave so it's all up to the audience's interpretation.

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The siblings are almost the same except they are obviously more materialistic.

Why do you think when the Doc shows up warning about his and Jennifer's future Marty asks "Do we grow up to be assholes or something?"

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The children that exist are the same, but they are different. Before the time travel Dave works fast food, but after he's obviously more successful with an office job. Isn't the sister more 'dressy" too?

Though the house is in the same place it is different. I can't remember offhand if the outside is different (though I'm thinking it is), the inside is most definitely different. That's why Marty does a double-take when he walks out of his bedroom - everything is "better". And they obviously have more money because that truck that Marty was drooling over in the beginning of the movie is his.

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I think the kids would be different, but for a totally different reason. Hear me out, if I'm not clear about this, ask me to clarify...

What I think is that if someone were to be able to travel back in time, it would be because time itself was rolled back. IOW, this person wouldn't be able to exist in the past while the future still existed. So...

By someone visiting the past, I speculate that if even he popped in and popped out, he would cause the time/universe to begin moving forward again from that point. Even if he disturbed nothing during his visit, time would start again and things would transpire more or less the way they had the first time. More or less...

But, human conception is like a slot machine or a random number generator (engineers know these are). So even if our time traveler disturbed nothing, every child's conception from that point on might be different as billions of sperm would once again be vying for the honor of fertilizing the egg. If this is the case, it would be virtually impossible for the same sperm to fertilize the egg every time, and a totally different human would result. It's also possible that no conception would take place if the even were relived, or that the fertilized egg wouldn't implant.

And in case you're wondering, I'm only on coffee right now... ☕

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But, human conception is like a slot machine or a random number generator (engineers know these are). So even if our time traveler disturbed nothing, every child's conception from that point on might be different as billions of sperm would once again be vying for the honor of fertilizing the egg. If this is the case, it would be virtually impossible for the same sperm to fertilize the egg every time, and a totally different human would result. It's also possible that no conception would take place if the even were relived, or that the fertilized egg wouldn't implant.

I was actually thinking about the whole conception part myself.

The way Marty changed the future, he should've been erased from existence, along with his brother and sister. There's no way George and Lorraine could've nailed down (no pun intended) the last millisecond of doing the first deed, thus creating Dave McFly. The timing and events would've had to be exact.

I suppose Zemeckis and Gale probably didn't care about the two parents having intercourse. Seems kinda silly in a film that has a flying DeLorean, LOL!

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I do think we're reading too much into something here. Bear in mind, these films are made to entertain.

Technically it's impossible to build a time machine into a car as well, but we don't hear people complaining about that.

Of all the impossibilities surrounding time travel, and all the potential paradoxes surrounding the stories, surely this one is fairly easy to ignore.

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