thanks papa
you pimped me off to a REAL WINNER (Justin)
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Of course, it was very different in the book. Sure, Mr Fabray guilted poor Madeline into marrying Justin there too. But they all knew that his health was only getting worse, and he was desperate to see his only daughter married before he died. Madeline had previously turned down several proposals from Justin, so she must have sensed that something was off with him. But in the end, she agreed to marry him to please her dying father. And we also have to remember that before it was too late to change anything, her father had no idea about how evil Justin was.
And in the book, all of this happened before she met Orry (they actually didn't meet each other before she was on her way to her wedding), which puts the story in a very different light. There was no stupid business about how her father kept his letters from her, and I don't understand why the script writers of the TV show invented that. Sure, they did have him apologize for it on his death bed. But I don't see how they found it realistic that a man, who had obviously raised his daughter to be an intelligent and independent woman, could then pull a terrible stunt like that on her.
Intelligence and purity.
Yes, also Madeline was drawn to Justin because he was a bit older. She'd had a bad experience with a young man, who was the first boy she ever had sex with, and he had then left her, and that made her a bit wary of Orry, because he too was young. She had thought with Justin being older, that he'd be more mature and more sensitive.
shareThat is true also. And as we all know, that detail was never explained in the TV series either.
Intelligence and purity.
I think some things are hard for a movie to convey, thus why they change it or leave it out. The story of Madeline's first sexual experience is all in her thoughts, so it might have been hard to put into the movie.
shareTrue, but that still doesn't explain why they had to turn her father totally out of character. And if they had only introduced us to Madeline a bit later, more like she was in the book, there wouldn't have been any problem.
Intelligence and purity.
I think they introduced Madeline from the start to introduce romance from the start. Maybe they wrote her father the way they did so it could provide more angst, put all the responsibility for the marriage to Justin on someone other than Madeline.
It's like they were going for a more Romeo and Juliet type thing, rather than it being a poor decision by Madeline.