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The Nude Scene and Violating Drunk Girls 10 different ways


Haviland Morris who played Caroline was very attractive in the shower scene. Never saw that until the unedited version was shown last night. Not sure how many girls stare at other girls in the gym shower and talk about their bodies.

Anyone notice how suggestive it was to "take Caroline home - I trust you", seemed almost like giving ideas to teens in the mid-'80's was a bad idea?

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Absolutely... Having sex with a complete stranger who is so drunk they are hardly even awake is called rape, and I know very few girls who would differ if they were in that situation. And yet when she wakes up in the morning she is pleased by the events... That's pretty much one of the worst messages to put in a teen movie IMO... ?

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Oh please. Farmer Ted do didn't rape Caroline. If anything, she could have gotten in trouble. Judging from Caroline's reaction the next morning, the experience of binge drinking followed by semi-comatose sex was not a new one to her, and took responsibility for her actions like an adult young woman and not some hysterical victim.

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It was a good message for a teen movie: girls should stop getting wasted at parties. And they can't count on anyone else to protect them as well as they can themselves. In fact, girls have a responsibility not to get *beep* with young men unless they are willing to accept the consequences.

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Wow, nice victime shaming.

So according to this wonderful judgement of yours, if a woman gets drunk, it's her fault if she gets raped. Im assuming the same goes for a guy, of course, because women are famous for taking advantage of passed out guys at parties.

Im sorry but just because I get wasted doesnt mean you have an excuse to *beep* me while im passed out.

And if I pass out in my boyfriend's bed he is certainly not entitled to send another guy to pass as him to *beep* me while im half comatose.

Ive gone throught the experience and Im not a fan of ptsd at all.

I'm certainly never gonna forgive my rapist because he was "only "taking advantage of my drunken state.

I guarantee you five years of nightmares, memory and focus issues and incapacity to wash away the disgusting feel of your dick is not worth your five minutes of pleasure.

I'm never gonna " take responsibility" for your being so weak and a loser that the only woman you manage to nail is a passrd out one.

*beep* you both.

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So according to this wonderful judgement of yours, if a woman gets drunk, it's her fault if she gets raped. Im assuming the same goes for a guy, of course, because women are famous for taking advantage of passed out guys at parties.


You're right. Women, unlike men, are too feeble-minded to take responsibility for their own actions. That's an astute observation that most people fail to understand these days.

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You got your mind right, Luke?

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You're right. Women, unlike men, are too feeble-minded to take responsibility for their own actions. That's an astute observation that most people fail to understand these days.


Hope you're taking the piss mate, otherwise you really are a douchebag.

Don't let anyone ever make you feel like you don't deserve what you want.

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Why don't you cry about it?

Saddlebags!

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Maybe the message they should put in it is for females to stop being stupid and then they wouldn't have to worry about it, anyway. Just like everything else in life, women don't want to take responsibility for their choices.

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Yes of course women are being stupid because they get drunk and everyone knows that getting drunk means men are entitle to nail you without your consent.

The problem is not and will never be that women get drunk.

The problem is and will always be that there are some men who think if a woman gets drunk you are entitled to take advantage of it.

In case you havent seen it, you may take a look at my previous post.

*beep* you.

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You seem to be glossing over the fact that Farmer Ted didn't remember it at all, but she said she "thinks" they did it.

Does that mean he was actually the one that was raped, or would they have to draw blood, and the higher BAC of the two then becomes the victim?

Oh, wait, nevermind. Women are always the victim. Sorry, forgot.

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Oh, wait, nevermind. Women are always the victim. Sorry, forgot.


Wow, did you get dumped a lot and that's why you hate women so much?

Don't let anyone ever make you feel like you don't deserve what you want.

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It was the 80s. You're not hip enough to have lived through the 80s. You could only watch it from afar and dream you were born 20 years earlier.

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I totally agree. Caroline pleased after what happened that night?

She should have been arrested and charged with sexual assault at the very least, and one could make a case for rape. She was older than Ted and very experienced. Ted doesn't remember what happened so clearly he was impaired. Caroline took his V card while he was clearly in no position to say no. Her clearly being pleased the next morning really ices the cake.



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A stunt woman did the shower scene

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No, a stunt woman didn't do the shower scene. There were no car crashes, falls from a high building, or martial arts fights.

A Body Double did the shower scene.

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