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Gus tried to kill Roy, right?



Gus says he lost $100,000 once on 3 pitches, but then got his revenge on the guy another way... that was talking about setting up Roy to get shot in the early part of the movie, was it not?

Also, Gus told Memo to give Roy a poisoned hors d'oeuvre, correct?

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I think Gus was saying that he won on a different bet, not that he had someone shot. It's pretty clear that Roy getting shot was by the crazy woman going around shooting star athletes.

Yes as to Gus telling Memo to poison Roy.

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I asked the same question on this board last night, titled it "Poisoned?".

When did Gus actually tell Memo to poison Roy, I don't recall it?

How could people think Gus had anything to do with the shooting, I don't get this?! Barbara Hershey's character had already killed 2 prominent athletes, she was going for her last hoorah, with the biggest sport of the day back then, baseball, and then she jumped from the window. She was wearing all black, as in a funeral. Max and the Whammer were talking about this on the train!! What does Gus have to do with it? The three pitched balls comment was just to get into Roy's head, as already stated in this thread.

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Gus was a manipulator...Max had already fed him the info on the three pitches. Gus was trying to get into Roy's head.

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Roy getting shot by the woman had nothing to do with Gus. Gus wouldn't enter Roy's life until 16 years later. The woman was going around killing the greatest athlete of each sport hence the reason she kept asking Roy if he was going to be the greatest.

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I'm sure Gus set Memo up with the poison to knock out Hobbs from the last few games, but I don't think the Gus' plan was to kill him. There were surer ways of accomplishing that without using an amateur like Memo. But the biggest problem with Roy's poisoning wasn't the poison itself, it was the prior damage to his stomach that the bullet caused, compounded by the stomach pump. If it wasn't for the previous injury, Roy would have been on his feet in a couple of days. His distress at that playoff game wasn't from the lingering affects of the poison, but the stomach erosion from the bullet.

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