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The evil/creepiness of Ray

posted 6 years ago by motorcycledriveb (303)
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So, Ray was closer to evil than the other ghostbusters? So creepy now that I think about it.

1) Ray gave the idea to Gozer to manifest the stay puft marshmallow man.
2) Vigo was able to momentarily possess Ray in G2. Earlier on in the film, the gaze of Vigo in the painting was hypnotizing him.
3) Ray was the first one to see Slimer in G1, if that means anything.
4) And wasn't Ray the one who had the wet dream experience with the ghost woman in G1 as well? The ghost woman wasn't bothering Egon or Peter.
5) Ray owned his own occult bookstore in G2.

Anything else that hints at him being more suggestible to evil?

[–] motorcycledriveb (303) 6 years ago

Ah, another thing I'd like to add. Ray is also more child-like, (swinging down on the pole and stating they have to buy the firehouse because of the pole, singing the ghostbusters song at birthday parties for kids, he was also less confident of them going into business for themselves, etc.)

[–] GreenGoblinsOck8 (7699) 6 years ago

1. When you get down to it there was no way any of them could possibly not think at all for the rest of their lives. People think. It's inevitable. Also the Marshmallow Man was a weak form being made out of marshmallows which made them able to blow it up after crossing the streams. If he'd thought of Godzilla then everybody would've been screwed.
2. Well, it could've happened to anyone. Vigo has powers. Doesn't make Ray bad.
3. I don't see what that has to do with anything. One of them was bound to find him. Also Slimer is the least harmless ghost they've faced.
4. We all have weird dreams sometimes. You want to admit to any wet dreams?
5. So just because he owns a book store that sells occult books that makes him bad? So Judgmental.

[–] dlancer (2036) 6 years ago

1. I've given a lot of thought to this, probably more than it's worth. Ray determined the form of the Destructor, but he did not choose its size. I figure anything they chose would increase in size to fit Gozer. A marshmallow man was probably among the top 10 percent of choices.

Since there was no possible way for them to have a discussion about it without thinking of a form, and since it would be impossible for them to go through their entire lives never thinking of a form, what they ended up with was a winnable situation... thanks primarily to Ray.