Destroyer vs Barbarian
I for one liked Conan The Destroyer better.
sharei think i did too. they are both great films.
shareI did, too. It just seemed to capture the feel of the characters better -especially the Marvel comics version.
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MovieChat Forums > Conan the Destroyer (1984) Discussion > Destroyer vs Barbarian
Come'on, Conan the Barbarian is totally out of this world. World class movie, my favorite of all time and honestly one of the best movies ever.
I like Conan The Destroyer, it's very fun, it reminds me of the comic book, but it's just a good flick, not a "chef-d'oeuvre"
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Barbarian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Destroyer
shareBarbarian kicks ass. Destroyer tries to kick ass, misses, and falls down.
Death to the Panopticon!
At least Destroyer is better than Eragon.
I did not give the cup to you - Saladin (Kingdom of Heaven)
I haven't seen the movie, but from everything I hear and read, there are home movies better than Eragon.
Have you seen it? If so, how bad is it? (i.e; 'Gouge my eyes out' bad, 'walk out of the theater' bad, or 'mock the movie mercilessly' bad, etc.)
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Well I read the book and my main problem is they cut 60% of it out.
But getting back to Destroyer, my main problem is the dialogue (especially the scene in Taramis' bedroom) and the fact that we go from bloodbath in Barbarian to a tame sequel.
I did not give the cup to you - Saladin (Kingdom of Heaven)
So the book was good? That would be surprising, given that the author was apparently a teenager when he wrote the novel. Most teenagers have difficulty stringing coherent sentences together, and the ones that don't are nowhere near capable of writing anything that could even charitably be called a novel.
Perhaps this is the exception; I may need to find out.
I agree with you, though: After "Barbarian", "Destroyer" was weak sauce. Bloodless violence, wrong tone and atmosphere, weaker score, weaker supporting cast. It was just a lesser movie.
Death to the Panopticon!
Barbarian all the way. Destroyer is the only movie to have more annoying side kick than Jar Jar Binks.
sharebarbarian as a film is better, better story and character development for sure, but i have to say i thought that destroyer has alot more of a D&D feel to it, wizards, thieves, warriors, barbarians, etc.
i thought the sidekick in destroyer was cool though. jar jar binks never killed numerous people with daggers to the kidneys.
communism is just a red herring
Conan isn't supposed to have D&D feel... seech... In a general sense Conan is in entirely different genre of fantasy.
shareum i said i thought it had a d&d feel to it, i don't care if it's not "supposed" to have it
besides, who decided that? you? you didn't make the movie pal.
communism is just a red herring
Howard did. I think Howard might even be upset, if he would learn, that his works are compared with D&D kind of fantasy. Good for him, that he's dead.
And furter more, it was that generic fantasy feel, which ruined Destroyer for me.
D&D is gay. First of all...
Second Destroyer is gay. It is like a disney movie. Horrible script, horrible directing. In fact, I think it is one of the worst sequels ever made. Barbarian is such an amazing movie and they could have done so much with the story and they totally blew it. This director dropped the ball like even a thousand times worse than george lucas with the new star wars. Barbarian is a brutal movie, where conan is actually barbaric. The second movie is kid *beep* How can you even compare the two? How anyone can even say that destroyer is a better movie is just beyond crazy and beyond my comprehension. The plot is hollow, the dialogue is stupid, the characters are either annoying or just worthless. Absolutely zero creativity or real thought went into destroyer. A real shame...
Barbarian is a "serious" movie, full of gore, deep-epic handled dialogues, scenes, music, etc...Destroyer looks more for kids (weak plot, less gore, very predictable...It doesn´t has that "epic-historic" feeling that the first has)
I choose Barbarian (and always will do)
It seems that results over Destroyer, made producers evict filming a 3rd part of Conan (sorry if this comment may not look accurate to you, but that´s what I think)
Okay, dewd. Just calm down. This reminds me of a great scene from the Rutger Hauer film "Flesh and Blood" where the bride is trying to choose which necklace to take. One of the whores walks up to her and says "Silly bitch, just take both."
sharedestroyer is better
shareI love both Movies.
In Destroyer, its more fantasy, and great girls.
Barbarian its a legend well done.
What is steel compared to the hand that wields it?
Conan The Barbarian.
the barbarian is a coming of age epic film with a better story, stronger acting (less of arnold speaking) and the destroyer is cheesy.
the barbarian is a coming of age epic film with a better story, stronger acting (less of arnold speaking) and the destroyer is cheesy.LOL!! "Coming of age" story?! WTF? Who comes of age? It's not like Conan is a teenager and grows into being a man during the course of the movie! I think you just used that term because it sounded good without actually considering what it means. LOL...hilarious.
Anyway, I'm not gonna argue with anyone about it, but I like both movies for different reasons, although I like Conan The Barbarian better and I think it's just a more quality movie. It's got a little more depth. That's not to say that Destroyer isn't a good movie in its own right; I like Red Sonya as well. I only wish there had been even more Conan movies. Arguing over preference, however, is practically pointless because everyone has their own tastes and we're not talking about any award-winning roles here. If we learned anything, it was that Wilt Chamberlain was more successful screwing women than he was at acting.
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LOL!! "Coming of age" story?! WTF? Who comes of age? It's not like Conan is a teenager and grows into being a man during the course of the movie!
Did you miss the first twenty minutes, where we see Conan as a boy, who then grows into a man during the Wheel of Pain scene? A coming of age is a person's transition from child to adult. We see that transition on film quite handily. Unless you have a different definition of "coming of age." share
Personally i think Barbarian is better. Its more brutal, has a bit more plot, has better cinematogrophy and overall i think its more of a epic bad@$$ story. Destroyer isnt bad though i think it is kind of ADD on plot though it just seems like the movies story doesnt really go anywhere and the characters just wander around a lot.
Actually that got kind of tedious after a bit, what with Malak doing that to already downed guards. He's a coward. The film is still a lot of fun, though.
shareThen obviously, Maximus, you enjoy horrid acting, slipshod plotting, and ridiculous special effects that add up to a rather cliched, monotonous movie.
shareWell, I think Conan The Barbarian is much better, but so many people are complainging about Destroyer, and it's not THAT bad. I mean, it's not a masterpiece in the genre like Barbarian, but it's a good entertaining fantasy film. Let's face it, there's not many decent fantasy films out there (especially not before Lord Of The Rings and Harry Potter raised the bar), and this does better than most. Chamberlain and Grace Jones did pretty well (much better than I would have expected!). Malak is kind of annoying, but it's a rare fantasy movie that is not marred with some poor attempt at the comedic sidekick (Hollywood doesn't seem to get that this takes away from this type of film). The special effects are fine - not mind-blowing, but good enough. The plot is fine - it's not great literature, but it works and moves the story along. Admittedly, not really the Robert Howard stories, but at least a decent quest film.
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Destroyer sucked, it seemed watered down for kids, but it has lots of other problems that also made it crap.
Red Sonja is even better than Destroyer.
Yes, Destroyer is better for kids.
shareBarbarian is definitely the better movie...but I think I watched the Destroyer a little more when I was a kid...and I still enjoy the hell out of both of them
Even the most primitive society has an innate respect for the insane.
The first movie has,without a doubt,a better story,characters,MUSIC and atmosphere...But this sequel was good too,even if it felt a lil' less "epic" than the previous flick.
Oh well,at least there was a better final battle than the one in "Conan the Barbarian"...Don't get me wrong,the battle at the mounds with Thulsa Doom's henchmen was Badass in the truest meaning of the term,but the final confrontation with Thulsa himself was...Meh,it could have been better.
Here,instead,we get a great fight with Conan pitted against a vicious monster from hell...Simply great!
You didn't like the final confrontation with Thulsa Doom? It was a perfect end for the villain, because his greatest power was manipulation. He was caught in a vulnerable position and he unleashed his most powerful weapon against Conan, his serpent's tongue. As a climax, it's much stronger than whatever is supposed to be considered the climax of Destroyer. I used to watch it in bits when it was on TV as a kid, but I've only watched it once since I bought the Conan 2-pack DVD, and honestly can't recall how the movie ends. Once is enough, it's a big letdown after watching Barbarian. And Olivia d'Abo's perfect breasts aren't enough for me to want to watch it again. To me, CtB is 9/10, CtD is like 3/10.
shareBarbarian is superior in every single way except one. Olivia D'abo. She's so hot she almost makes Destroyer tolerable. Almost.
Destroyer seems a lot slower and just not as interesting to me. Even as a little kid, after the Wizard part, I would leave about 75% of the time. That was a good enough ending for me. After that it's just...blah.