Explain The Ending


I heard lots of good things about this film, but I didn't think it was so good. Sure Joe Morton was fantastic, but the movie didn't seem to do anything. He was just there. There was no explanation as to why he was being chased, what the Men in Black did to him (plugging something into his body and turning a dial causing him to spasm), why The Brother went after Mr. Vance (was he selling or just doing the drugs?), and the ending was the most confusing of all!

Who were those other people? Why were they like zombies? Why did they chase the Men in Black. Why did the Men in Black disappear? When The Brother asked if the Men in Black went "up" (presumably back into space), some other guy (who was he?) motioned that they went "down." Did they go to hell? What was the significance of the next shot of The Brother riding away from the camera (us) on the subway train? What was the significance of the final shot of The Brother at the school basketball court, looking at us and giving a sort-of smile?

The movie has me up to a point then completely lost me.
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My interpretation of The Brother pointing up was that he was asking the other brother if his was going home (leaving the planet), and when the other brother pointed down, he was saying that this was his home. But the thing I loved most about the movie was that so many people had a different interpretation of what it meant when he pointed up. The guys at the bar thought it meant uptown. The Puerto Rican guy at the arcade thought it meant a northern island (specifically, Puerto Rico), and only the boy understood that it meant from another planet.

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Good answers

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Thanks for the reply. Now it makes a lot more sense, at least as a allegory to slavery. Since it left me with so many questions, I'd have to say that I think it did a pretty poor job as science fiction.
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You should see the john sayles commentary. He said he didn't want to make just another science fiction story.
If people are using their brains and discussing the film with people respecting other people's take, then that's good and I think what he wanted.

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I believe he escaped his planet where he was a slave. The men in black have come to return him. The plug-in was to keep him under control. The men in black did not return to their planet (up) but rather self-destructed (down into the ground). The subway was just him going on to another adventure as he had escaped the men in black. Maybe he went to find the girl of his dreams (the singer).

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When he and the boy are at the museum, he points to the picture of the fleeing slae being chased by hounds, and then to himself. Clearly, he is an escaped slave and the men in black are paddy-rollers sent to bring him back. Also, the idea of it not being good science-fiction if it leaves you with questions, couldn't be further from the truth. Is Primer bad sci-fi and Earth vs. the FLying Saucers good? Any decent art should leave you with questions, otherwise its just pablum.

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Yeah I def think he was an escaped slave from another planet.

When he pointed up I thought he was asking the guy if he should go back, and the guy pointed down either saying he should stay on Earth, or I thought possibly "go underground", as in lay low before any authorities started asking questions about the weird stuff going on with him. When he was on the subway train on the next scene I figured they had sent him off to a safer location, but I could've just been reading more into it than was possibly there.

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There were just as many guys in the bar. I'm pretty sure the people at the end were other aliens who had escaped the Men in Black. There's no dialogue in those last scenes, because they're all like Morton.
The thumbs up-down gesture which indicated earlier in the movie as up was outerspace. When the other alien gives the thumbsdown, he's indicating that Earth is their home now.

He asked us, "Be you angels?"
and we said, "NAY, we are but men," ROCK!

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i always interpreted it to mean they were from outer space but in the opposite direction he was pointing to-thus being downward.

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As far as why he's riding the subway train at the end, I just thought of this, and maybe it's not what John Sayles, but think about this for a second: WHAT is a subway? It's literally an underground railroad! Hence, maybe that shot is meant to as a visual pun on "Underground Railroad".

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SPOILERS!!!!




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"Three-toe," or Brother was an escaped slave. The MIB were bounty hunters.
In the end, the Brother has gone "downtown" to confront the heroin dealer.
The bounty hunters track him there and attach their hi-tech shackles and use the "dial" to reel him back in- just like a fish on the line.

As they take him away, the Brother notices the directional markings and gets an opportunity to escape. As he runs, following the markings, he encounters others like himself. They confront the bounty hunters and the two MIB self-destruct to avoid humiliation at the hands of the mob.

When Brother asks if the others are from space, too, they reply that they are from Earth- which could be interpreted to mean that Black earthlings befriended him, but the silence might suggest that the gesture means that Earth is their new home.

Brother then takes the "A" train back to Harlem, his new home. (Remember that they are currently downtown and connect that to the directions given the two white guys from Indiana in the bar earlier.)

Then the last scene- Brother is at home in Harlem, home of the best basketball in the country ;)

Remember: no matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai

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> As they take him away, the Brother notices the directional markings

The whole thing is an allegory of the Civil War with its secret symbols and underground railroad - it's pointed out in the gallery where they reference Harriet Tubman.

And the end is the literal underground railroad taking him back to Harlem - Harlem is the end. It's where it's at. It has the history. Remember that dialogue in the bar?

I believe the Brother is asking by pointing up after the MIB self-destruct if they went back to the home planet where he's a slave, but the silent answer is no. I think the silence is because his helpers are mute, too.

"Take the A Train," of course, is a classic jazz piece by Billy Strayhorn (attributed mistakenly to Duke Ellington for whom it was written and who made the first recording).( An interesting coincidence in names is that MIB Dos is played by David Strathairn, who went on the play Edward R. Murrow in "Good Night and Good Luck," along with other memorable roles.)

I have to agree that the ending is weak. I'm not sure whether it's because Sayles didn't really nail it down that this is the underground railroad or what. But he definitely is home in Harlem, as you say.

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The other blacks at the end were clearly aliens from his same planet, or else they would've spoken. Earlier in the film, The Brother passes some graffiti on a wall. He pauses because he recognizes it as his written language. He feels the wall and then gets this look of joy on his face because he knows his people are there somewhere. At another point in the movie, one of the black aliens from the end (man with knit cap) can be seen watching The Morton. He looks still like a statue; there is something about his movement where he doesn't seem human. Also, the white aliens were strong enough to overcome humans, even if there were 5 or 6 of them like there were at the end. After all they defeated several men in the bar who even had baseball bats, while the group in the alley at the end were unarmed. Perhaps as a group they had some sort of power. Could this be a message about black solidarity?

Right before The Brother makes the thumbs-up gesture to the group, he does something with his fingers, as if to say "we" or "all of us". He's asking if they're leaving that planet and the man says thumbs-down, as in no, this is our home now.



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This. Don't know why it's so hard to figure out. Never considered another interpretation, because very, very little is open to interpretation. There are cues all over the movie.

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