A plothole you could drive the Hong Kong Cavaliers tourbus through


As I understand the plot (which admittedly is not as thoroughly as true fans), back in 1938, Drs. Lizardo and Hikita invent an oscillation overthruster, which allows Lizardo to partially go into the Eighth Dimension. As a result, Lord Whorfin escapes from imprisonment there and inhabits Lizardo's body. Meanwhile, because of this rift, 46 other Red Lectroids escape into the Eighth Dimension. (Oh, god, I can't believe I'm seriously analyzing the plot of this movie.)

Because of his dual personality, Lizardo goes "insane," and kills someone, gets caught, then gets put into the jail for the criminally insane, where he spends the next 45 years or so.

Although the oscillation overthruster Lizardo/Whorfin built while imprisoned didn't work, I think this had to be due to a lack of proper materials, and not due to any lack of knowledge.

In any case, why would the Red Lectroids found Yoyodyne, with its fat defense contracts, and not spring their leader, keep him safely hidden inside Yoyodyne's plant (where no human had ever set foot before), allow him to work on the overthruster with all the money that a padded defense contract could allow, and get the hell outta there, and back to the Eighth Dimension? It seems like that could have been done in a lot less than 45 years.

And what was it about Buckaroo's going into the Eighth Dimension that all of a sudden inspires Lizardo/Whorfin's escape to Yoyodyne? Again, why not do so 45 years earlier?




I asked the doctor to take your picture so I can look at you from inside as well.

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I don't know why they didn't spring him earlier. He obvious could leave whenever he wanted, so he must have had a reason for staying there. But of course the reason he escapes is because he sees on TV that Buckaroo has created a working overthruster.

"I asked the doctor to take your picture so I can look at you from inside as well."

Hey it's "Turning Japanese" by The Vapors.

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You got that right. Sure. Got that right.

I dunno about leaving whenever he wanted to. He was locked up. If you mean leaving by killing a guard or monkey-boy whenever he felt like it, and escaping, then sure, but that would draw too much undue attention.

And why would he possibly want to stay there, instead of with his buddies at Yoyodyne. Doesn't make sense.



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In any case, why would the Red Lectroids found Yoyodyne, with its fat defense contracts, and not spring their leader, keep him safely hidden inside Yoyodyne's plant (where no human had ever set foot before), allow him to work on the overthruster with all the money that a padded defense contract could allow, and get the hell outta there, and back to the Eighth Dimension? It seems like that could have been done in a lot less than 45 years.
It's not made clear until later in the movie, but Bigboote was #2 to Whorfin (Lithgow) and Yoyodyne was Bigboote's operation. It's made obvious when Bigboote replies, "Damn John Whorfin and the horse he rode in on!" that he's clearly aiming for the #1 spot while Whorfin's trapped here. It's also implied (greatly, in my opinion) that the Red Lectroids working under Bigboote aren't all that bright (so as not to question why they wouldn't go spring Whorfin outta jail).

But it's also very possible that the Red Lectroids weren't happy under John Whorfin's reign.

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What's he paying you boys? I'll double it and we'll beat the *beep* out of him.

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Yes, that explains why Yoyodyne wouldn't want Worfin out. And sure, these Red Lectroids are not the brightest bulbs in the galaxy - even the Black Lectroids were not the most brilliant, either.

But why would Whorfin "voluntarily" stay in the home for the criminally insane for 45 years? Seems like he would want to get out long ago, and not have to deal with all the petty trivialities the monkey-boys keep foisting upon him, like taking away his television.

Nice sig, by the way.




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I think Lizardo really was insane. And for most of that time, Whorfin lay dormant inside his mind. But Banzai breaking the barrier reawakened Whorfin and gave him proper motivation to break out of the asylum.

At least, that's my take on it.

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What's he paying you boys? I'll double it and we'll beat the *beep* out of him.

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Okay, I'll buy that for a dollar. That makes some sense.




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That's why he hooked up that thing to his tongue, thats when he completely switched.

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From what I recall from the novelization, which I haven't read recently, Whorfin's mental state is REALLY unstable, because of a combination of factors: the presence of two personalities within one brain, the interface between human and Lectroid biologies and psychologies, and the fact that he was, by both human and Lectroid standards, a full-on psychopathic monster even before he was overthrown and sent into the Eighth Dimension. That, combined with the aging of his human host body (which seems to have been slowed greatly but most likely not entirely) and the heavy dose of drugs he's fed at the institute, make for one strange, strange individual.

I guess the main reason that Lizardo/Whorfin "chose" to remain institutionalized for decades, beyond his own insanity, is that Emilio Lizardo was just too high profile a person to remain at large for an extended period of time. Too recognizable and too dangerous to the authorities. (Sort of like if Albert Einstein started robbing banks or blowing up churches.) So after he was captured he probably decided he'd let the humans keep him locked up for a bit while John Bigbooté and the others established Yoyodyne (using the money Whorfin had accumulated during his brief but highly successful criminal career as seed money), and during this time he presumably slipped further into insanity. I would guess he slipped into long periods of catatonia over the years too. When Whorfin sees Banzai's successful invention on TV, that seems to snap him back to a semblance of lucidity (well...for him, anyway) and he breaks out.

As for why the Lectroids don't bother freeing him, the novelization goes into more detail about John Bigbooté, Whorfin's chief lieutenant and the CEO of Yoyodyne. By the time of the movie Bigbooté had been living as a very successful human captain of industry and had to a great extent "gone native." He'd hobnobbed with senators and indulged in human vices, even taking to bathing regularly, something that most Red Lectroids considered a sign of weakness, and he'd decided that Whorfin's obsession with returning to Planet 10 was a waste of time. He was happier building up his power base on Earth. Bigbooté's plan was to eventually formally challenge John Whorfin for leadership, kill him and eat his brains, in accordance with Lectroid ritual. I assume he could never work up the nerve to go through with it, because Whorfin had been sort of a father figure for him back on Planet 10. So he just bided his time, keeping the Lectroids working on the spaceship and overthruster but without his heart really in it, keeping Whorfin "on ice" in the asylum until he decided to make his move.

And that's probably far more detail than anyone wanted to hear about the question, but I love this movie precisely because you can obsess about the backstory like this. heh.

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I would like to point out that you are all attempting to rationalize the motivations of a very alien entity with your own human viewpoint. Maybe the place he was was of no consequence to Bigboote. Maybe he only needed his intellect to solve the puzzle of the overthruster, and the other Lectroids would only be a distraction. Maybe he liked the food there (in the asylum) or the company. Maybe he was too nuts to feel the need to be elsewhere.
Sooo... you were ok with him driving through the mountain in a ford pickup, but not with him staying in the asylum??

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