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Does anyone else HATE the grandfather, Walter Powell?


I am in the middle of the second season. I miss the Penbrokes, but the Powells are ok too, EXCEPT for the grandfather. He is just plain mean to Charles. I find it less funny and more like Charles should just punch him in the face. Anyone else feel like that, or if just me? If anyone has any examples please post them.

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i actually enjoy the powell children over the pembroke children........The grandfather had an annoying personality and was mean to charles but I do not necessarily hate him...

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I don't. You should calm down or something.

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I always looked as Walter Powell as the equivalent of Mr. Penbroke where if something happened that wasn't directly Charles' fault it is still his fault because he was in charge.

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No, I didn't hate him. At first he wasn't as nice but that was part of his character. He didn't think they needed a college boy raising his grandchildren, and because of his generations way of thinking and being a former Navy man, he was set in his ways, and he felt Ellen should stay home and raise her own children. As the show went on, he was not mean, just frustrated, mostly by Buddy and the antics he caused, but still kept his eye on Charles. What I didn't get was that the mother worked full-time and the father was overseas in the Navy but Walter was retired and always home. Even if they needed someone to watch the kids at certain times, when Walter was busy, Jamie was old enough to take care of her siblings on ocassion, so they had two people capable of watching the kids while Ellen was at work or busy and if not they could ocassionally hire a babysitter, and not need a full-time live-in nanny. Also with the Powell episodes, beside the fact that Walter was always there, Ellen was there a lot too. With the Pembrokes, Charles being there made sense because both parents were working professionals and, although they were in the episodes, mainly at the beginning and end, even when they were in other parts, they were secondary characters, and the show's story lines mainly revolved around Charles and the children. If they wanted that male parental figure to fill the role of Mr. Pembroke's character, then they should have had Ellen's husband in the show, or if not, at least have had the grandfather living in the same town and always popping in to check that this college kid was taking good care of his grandchildren, rather than having him in the same house, retired with lots of free time and always there.

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No I hated him because he always threatened Charles. And he always treated him like he was some punk guy trying to date one of his daughters or something. He was worse to Charles than the Skipper was to Gilligan. I felt so bad, but I felt Buddy Lembeck deserved the treatement though. He was an idiot sometimes like beyond the point where he isn't funny.

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I totally agree. Put simply, the grandfather character was a stroke of genius. This was the 80s and to have a character who was old fashioned and a member of the Greatest Generation was key to the show. In a way, he was the villain of the show, not that I ever thought of him as such. He was a perfect counter to Charles. Plus, as been stated before, he became irritated with Buddy more often than Charles. That dynamic was gold.

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Yes, I hated him too. He was an annoying, nasty, mean-spirited old fart. They should have beaten him senseless with a baseball bat, and then committed him to an old folks home.

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While I didn't hate him, I never really cared for him or the Powells. IMO the show caught lightning in a bottle with the Pembrokes. The chemistry of that cast was magic. Once the Powells replaced them, the show was still watchable but not the same. The family was ok but were annoying.

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I like the Powells over the Pembrokes, but I always hated the grandfather!
I would cringe or stop listening whenever he went off on some rant.
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The OP is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I hated the grandfather; then again you WERE supposed to hate him - He was someone who seemed completely out of place in the serial; while everyone else in the sitcom at worst was guilty of the crime of being annoying - they all had their good points. But this guy was just a PIECE OF WORK; HE WAS ANNOYING ALL THE TIME. At least Buddy was funny; this guy did not even have that luxury. He was a humorless old poop who took pleasure in pouring cold water down everyone's party.

Now the grumpy older doddering fool grandfather character is a staple of sitcoms; great examples of his kind can be found in the serials Rising Damp and One Foot in The Grave; but those characters were more well-rounded, and while not likebale, you could at least see their point of view; they came up from hard backgrounds and were jealous of the younger generation and their more liberal, free ways (especially around the opposite sex) and felt that life had passed them by.

I felt NO sympathy at all for this grandfather - he was a (ahem) p r i c k. This is a guy who had a priviliged upbringing, joined the army through daddy's influence (much like a certain George W. Bush!), who probably never worked an honest days work in his life and who probably spent his time in the army ordering OTHER people around instead of doing any work HIMSELF. You see it in his demeanour, making Charles his personal servant - he certainly loves telling OTHER people to work instead of doing it himself, right?

But what I found grating was the mind-numbing HYPOCRISY regarding his behavior. For a guy who SEEMED to care about his grandkids, he sure didn't seem to spend ANY time with them at all. They were spoilt and unappreciative - I sincerely hope their kids harass them the same way they drove Charles nuts. I just found it funny that while he pretended to not need Charles - he sure made him do a lot of HIS work.

What's even more grating was that NOBODY told him off - his behavior was seen as acceptable - in the old British serials from which such characters like him originated; they were ridiculed and got their comeuppance. This creep just seemed to sail through life without anyone punching him in the face, scolding him for abusing his tenuous power or dumping a carton of milk as sour on him as his demeanour.

While his behaviour was a good foil against Buddy - against Charles it was just grating. He seemed jealous of the fact that Charles seemed to get along as well with his family while he spent all his time avoiding them. Perhaps if instead of Scott Baio starring in the lead role as Charles, Andrew Dice Clay was cast instead it would have been more interesting: He would have made both the daughters pregnant, punched the old coot in the face and stolen some money from the house; now THAT would have made an interesting serial!

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I agree that Mr Powell was mean to Charles... at times, but not always. I really enjoy how Mr. Powell hated Buddy. Those one liners were funny.
So... no, I don't hate the grandfather, he was annoying at times, but not enough for me to hate the character.

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I never hated him, he didn't seem as mean to Charles expect for the first episode of the second season as he was to Buddy Lembeck I mean he would throw insult after insult at him which including the first thing he said to Buddy after he intrustuded himself to Walter Powell.

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