Watching this film many years ago,I got the impression it was never really determined one way or the other if Gus actually blew the hatch in Liberty Bell 7.
While watching Ep. 2 of The Astronauts Wives Club, Gus' character said words to the effect that" they know I didn't do it because my hands would have been bruised ."
Does anyone know if it was decided one way or another if he panicked and blew the hatch or was it a malfunction like he claimed?
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I think the way it's told in The Astronaut Wives Club is largely accurate, though it's made to sound more definitive than it actually was.
The part about the brusing is accurate: as a test, Wally Schirra (I think) intentionally blew a hatch (when the spacecraft wasn't in the water, obviously), and he was bruised.
The likelihood that he panicked and intentionally blew the hatch is very, very low. Consider that, when the helicopters appeared and told him they were ready to hook up and lift the spacecraft out of the water, Grissom asked them to wait for 5 minutes so he could mark down all the switch positions, and continued to ask them to wait several more times.* He spent over 10 minutes sitting in the spacecraft after splashdown, and more than seven of them were after the helicopter was above him, ready to hook up.
They tried to figure out some possible way he could have accidentally hit the trigger, but that was essentially impossible.
The explanation given on the show is the most likely one, though I don't think anybody has ever said that as definitely as Grissom made it sound on the show. There was a lanyard on the exterior that could be pulled to blow the hatch. It's possible that it came loose (it was held down by a single screw: in later missions it was better secured) and got fouled with parachute cords or something else.
As far as how Grissom was judged by his fellow astronauts and the space program generally: remember that he was assigned to fly the first Gemini mission <i>and</I> the first Apollo mission, and that Deke Slayton said he hoped Grissom would command the first moon landing. That wasn't just the result of automatic deference to old hands either: Carpenter was more or less sent packing altogether, and Cooper was as well some years later, during the Apollo years. Schirra would have been after Apollo 7, if he hadn't already decided to leave NASA anyway (the rest of his crew never flew again).
The version of events shown in The Right Stuff doesn't definitively say what happened, but - at least in my opinion - it's quite unfairly critical of Grissom. ______ *Excerpts from the transcript of radio communications, which can be found pretty easily on line (time are minutes and seconds after liftoff):
15:37 [Spacecraft landed in the water]
16:35 Grissom: Roger, my condition is good; OK, the capsule is floating, slowly coming vertical, have actuated the rescue aids. The reserve chute has jettisoned, in fact I can see it in the water, and the whip antenna should be up.
18:27 Helicopter: This is Hunt Club 1, we are in orbit now at this time, around the capsule
18:32 Grissom: Roger, give me about another 5 minutes here, to mark these switch positions here, before I give you a call to come in and hook on. Are you ready to come in and hook on anytime?
18:40 Helicopter: Hunt Club 1, roger we are ready anytime you are.
18:44 Grissom: OK, give me about another 3 or 4 minutes here to take these switch positions, then I'll be ready for you.
20:17 Helicopter: Will we be interfering with any TM if we come down and take a look at it?
20:26 Grissom: Negative, not at all. I'm just going to put the rest of this stuff on tape and then I'll be ready for you, in just about 2 more minutes, I would say.
25:19 Grissom: OK, Hunt Club. This is Liberty Bell 7. Are you ready for the pickup?
25:26 Helicopter: This is Hunt Club 1; this is affirmative.
25:30 Grissom: OK, latch on, then give me a call and I'll power down and b hatch, OK?
25:36 Helicopter: This is Hunt Club 1, roger, will give you a call when we're ready for you to blow.
25:42 Grissom: Roger, I've unplugged my suit so I'm kinda warm now.
25:46 Helicopter: 1, roger.
25:52 Grissom: Now if you tell me to, ah, you're ready for me to blow, I'll have to take my helmet off, power down, and then blow the hatch.
25:58 Helicopter: 1, roger, and when you blow the hatch, the collar will already be down there waiting for you, and we're turning base at this time.
26:09 Grissom: Ah, roger.
That was the last radio transmission before the hatch blew.
Not sure if your aware of this but the capsule was eventually recovered, a pretty amazing feat to be sure, but unfortunately it still didn't completely provide evidence of why the hatch blew. Sounds like the only conclusive proof would of been to actually find the hatch which they were unable to do. Not that I doubt Gus as there's no way he would of been allowed to command the first manned Gemini mission and the first manned mission of Apollo if not for the fire. You just have to look at the careers of Scott Carpenter, Donn Eisele & Walter Cunningham who didn't measure up to NASA's standards. This video about the contents of Liberty 7 might interest you:
I remember the news story about the capsule being recovered. I'm wondering if maybe some salt water didn't get in through a crack somewhere created by re-entry, and bridge a circuit somewhere that triggered the hatch.
The more I think about it ... the more that seems likely to me.
Yeah, at this point in history, it's pretty well accepted that Tom Wolfe did a quite sleazy thing in 'sexing-up' (as the Brits say) his story by savaging a dead guy who couldn't defend himself, all in an effort for more book sales. Writers are, after all, writers. Gus as 'Honorable Mr. Squirming Hatch-Blower', along with his overly ambitious, status-seeking wife, made for great entertainment, even if none of it was true.
If there was even the remotest inkling that Gus had panicked, I can't imagine NASA keeping him in the program, let alone two more missions. They investigated, he was cleared, and that was that until, of course, Wolfe's book and subsequent movie revisited the whole affair.
Yeah, anyone with any inkling of how organizations like NASA and the military work would know that if they believe someone screwed up they don't put them in the position to screw up again.
It really was an unfair portrayal, bodering on slander.
If a little belatedly, I also want to thank you for your cogent explanation.
A second possibility was postulated by Robert Thompson, then director of Mercury Operations, and Lt. James Lewis, the Marine Corps lead recovery pilot on Grissom's mission, in 2011. After splashdown, Gus had gotten ahead of his procedural timeline and released the holding pin for the firing trigger. Once released, any number of actions, independent of the astronaut, dealing with movement of the spacecraft (such as waves or rotor wash from the helicopter) could have cased the trigger to fire.
I love this movie, its borderline parody interpreting events in a unique way, but I completely agree with others that its portrayal of Gus Grissom borders on the slanderous.
Gus getting ahead of himself with the procedure timeline and releasing the holding pin for the hatch firing trigger early, along with the rather haphazardly held external hatch release lanyard coming loose and getting yanked somehow from the outside, seems like the most plausible explanation of how the hatch blew.
One more thing, there was a great mini series on HBO called From the Earth to the Moon. In the series an engineer said Gus Grissom was correct, the hatch just blew. Although the mini series was not a documentary, countless interviews with people associated with NASA were conducted to write the most accurate portrayal possible.
One more thing, there was a great mini series on HBO called From the Earth to the Moon. In the series an engineer said Gus Grissom was correct, the hatch just blew. Although the mini series was not a documentary, countless interviews with people associated with NASA were conducted to write the most accurate portrayal possible.
Episode: Apollo 1 Its one of the Apollo 1 investigators, who also investigated the case of Grissom and the exploding hatch. He called it irony, because it was him who discovered that the hatch actually could blow by accident and that was why the Apollo 1 did not have one, which could have saved the crew. He did also tell, that he was not a fan of irony because of it.
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Gus did not blow the hatch, as far as NASA was concerned.
There is evidence to support this including the fact that his hand was not bruised. With the hatch he had, if he tried to blow it, that particular hatch would have taken a bite of skin out of his hand sort of how an automatic pistol can take a bite out of a shooters hand if the gun is not properly designed. NASA later fixed that problem.
NASA always liked and respected Gus. He flew in the Gemini program and was scheduled to fly on the first Apollo flight but was killed in a fire - due in large part to the fact that the hatch of his Apollo spacecraft could not open quickly.
Had he not been killed in the fire, there was a fair to good chance that Gus would have been the first man to walk on the moon.
Correct. A NASA investigation concluded that Grissom's hand was not bruised and there was no known instance in which the Mercury capsule would not bruise the astronaut's hand upon blowing the hatch.
There are other details omitted in the film.... as conscientious as it is about the inclusion of women and minorities in a way uncommon for American films even in 1982. For example, Trudy Olson met Gordo Cooper because she was a flight instructor. This is never mentioned in the film, in spite of its relevance to her familiarity with aviation life.
It's also never mentioned that "Pancho" Barnes was a flight instructor and acrobatic pilot who ran her own school in the 1930s... It can't be too hard to cover this fact without interrupting the flow of the film.
The crash of the NF-104 happened in 1963, though it's juxtaposed against a celebration at Sam Houston stadium on 4 July 1962... this is an acceptable degree of artistic license, however, because of the apt comparison drawn between the aging Sally Rand and Chuck Yeager.
"The crash of the NF-104 happened in 1963, though it's juxtaposed against a celebration at Sam Houston stadium on 4 July 1962..."
I read Al Worden's "Falling to Earth" awhile ago and he was recruited by Yeager to join the U.S. Air Force Test Pilot School. Worden also flew the NF-104 and his description of some of those flights is one of the highlights of the book. He does say a bit about Yeager's accident and according to him, everybody was walking on eggshells around Chuck for awhile because he had screwed up but nobody dare mention it around him.
"It's also never mentioned that "Pancho" Barnes was a flight instructor and acrobatic pilot who ran her own school in the 1930s... It can't be too hard to cover this fact without interrupting the flow of the film."
I didn't even realize that was supposed to be Pancho Barnes until I looked up this movie on IMDB. They should have mentioned it somewhere in this film. There is a TV movie about her starring Valerie Bertinelli that's fairly good.
"The end of the shoelace is called the...IT DOESN'T MATTER!"
It can't be too hard to cover this fact without interrupting the flow of the film.
It couldn't have added much to the movie about the test pilots and astronauts. They left out a whole lot about Chalmers Goodlin and a number of other characters as well... they can't put everything in about everyone.
I didn't even realize that was supposed to be Pancho Barnes until I looked up this movie on IMDB.
Did you miss the Pancho's Happy Riding Bottom Club scenes?
Besides the bruising, the biggest piece of evidence NASA didn't believe Grissom blew the hatch is he flew in Gemini and continued into Apollo, where he died. They simply wouldn't have kept him if they thought he'd panicked. He'd have quietly retired.
Grissom was badly maligned in the movie and the book by Tom Wolfe it was based on. If NASA had really thought he was incompetent they would not have made him the commander of the first Gemini mission, and then commander of the first Apollo mission (a role he was unable to fulfill because he was killed). Obviously, the fact that they gave him these responsibilities proves they felt he was exceptionally good at his job. Wolfe and the film makers made up BS and screwed Grissom posthumously. Unfortunately, most people believe what was depicted in the movie.