Did Trumpy take out Tracy?


On first examination, it seems that the evil pod person is doing all the killing, but I believe its quite clear that one of the victims in the movie was not part of his killing spree. Oh sure, the filmmakers want you to think Trumpy is all fun and good, but there is strong evidence to the contrary that proves to be quite powerful.

First, it's established that pod people can't move very fast. When the evil one attacks Lara in the woods, he's moving at a top speed of about 5 mph. Taking this into consideration, it took Uncle Bill and Brian a few hours to get to the ranger station after leaving the house by automobile, where they were attacked by "evil Trumpy." After Brian is killed, Bill splits from the ranger station in the vehicle, probably driving very fast.

Which brings us to the second point. Bill arrives back at his house just after Tracy has been killed inside the rock group's camper. Killed by a pod person, who wanders off into the woods. Now are we to believe that the evil pod person, who can only move at 5 mph tops, was able to beat a car all the way back to the house?

Third, lest we not forget that Trumpy was unaccounted for during Tracy's death. Tommy was looking around the house for quite some time before he witnessed the attack on Tracy, and then it was still some time after that before Trumpy came back to Tommy's room. Just what was ol' snout face doing during that time?

Fourth, it's also establised that pod people are quite reckless and violent, even when not being provoked. Trumpy fries Tommy's toy robot, and the evil pod person attacks Lara for no reason whatsoever. While it's questionable if he pushed Lara off the cliff or if she just fell, the fact remains that he left his "glowing pimples" mark on her forehead just like he did with the poachers Sam and Matt, clearly claiming her as his kill.

It's quite possible that Trumpy went psycho inside the RV and killed Tracy, and and since he didn't both to put his own "glowing pimples" on Tracy, it's obvious that its another pod person. The only time that the "evil" pod doesn't leave his calling card is when he's in a hurry to flee the scene, like with Burt, Brian, Kathy and Uncle Bill. Trumpy had no reason to split so soon so it's clear that he has a different modus operandi then his more evil brother.

Finally, it isn't until late in the evening that the evil pod person attacks and kills Kathy in the bathroom, which would make it completely plausible that he had just arrived at the house after following the road for hours until he stumbled on it.

So there you have it. Trumpy tells Tommy a flat out lie when asked point blank if he killed Tracy, and then slowly conspires to take out the rest of the family as well before being left to die in the woods as he rightly deserves. Goodbye Trumpy, hope a grizzly bear eats you!

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I hope a grisly bear eats Trumpy anyway... and then finishes off E.T. for dessert.

"She's ZESTFULLY DEAD!" - Tom Servo

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Nothing pleases a person more then seeing people still respond to their threads two years later...

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Well, your original post was an excellent analysis of the film! I've seen this movie ten times and I never noticed some of the things you pointed out, such as how Tracy didn't get the big dipper seared into her dome and was therefore probobly the victim of another killer.

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Yeah, well, Tracy had it coming.

"Sheesh, lady, lay off the kid's animals!"

Trumpy was probably just protecting himself from being molested.

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Lol, I think you might be applying too much thought into this movie!

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Don't be so hard on Trumpy. After all, the other pod person isn't really EVIL, just content to kill members of lower species around him when they get in his way. So maybe we're just like ants to the pod people and they'll kill us without a second thought, well I'd still give Trumpy a great big hug even if he's about to rip my head off seconds later.

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If the main manifestation of some higher race's power is making toys fly around a room to circus music, I will have lost faith in the universe.
It STINKS!
-Rick
"Pod People"

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Ehhhh, g'won and eat a potato, will ya?

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That settles it. I was just getting ready to go watch either Wuthering Heights or For Whom the Bells Toll, but this intellectual discussion has settled me on another rewatch of "Pod People."



Is that a rumor or did you just make this up?

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Then my work is done here.

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Well, I just watched Extra Terrestrial Visitors; that is, the uncut, but dubbed in English version of the film. I watched carefully during the "Trumpy Takes Down Tracey in a Trailer" scene and I do think it is in fact, Trumpy. There is no arrow sticking out of the alien's chest.

So yes, Trumpy is both a killer and a liar.

I personally am both sick and sad to have sought out the non-MST3K version ($3.99 from Amazon) but it was worth it to hear the "I'm a Virgin" dude say, "She's b****ier than I am!"

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He says WHAT??!!!

I don't want to make myself sick or sad; your post just makes me morbidly curious. Give me a hint: Is he referring to some woman's figurative possession of male reproductive organs? (And, by the way, who is he talking about?)

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Oh, sorry about being so vague ...

I'm A Virgin guy actually says "Tsk. Even bitchier than I am," in reference to Tracy, who has just just been burned after propositioning the sound engineer in the recording studio.

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Ah, but of course. No wonder she's looking for a ranger or a bear to sleep with at this point.

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This reminds me of the deep discussion we were having over on the Riding with Death board about the plot of the second half of the 'movie' and why Roberyt Denby wants to blow up his own race car. In other words, we are thinking FAR too deeply into something that doesn't matter because these are bad movies. Really bad movies, which is why they don't really have to make sense. That being said, it wouldn't surprise me if the Trumpster offed the annoying Tracey. I would have too and pinned it on someone else. Why the hell not?

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I recently rewatched this one, and by God I think you're right! There is no way that the alien could have ambled back to the lodge before Bill arrived, not on those short legs. Plus when the alien ermges from the camper after offing Tracey there is no arrow in its chest. The killer alien has the stump of the arrow protruding from its chest still when Tommy talks to it after that. So it didn't pull the arrow out. it has to be Trumpy who whacked Tracey. So much for 'they all want to be our friends'. Good one, Tommy.

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God, I love that this thread still exists!

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Me too. I had fun writing it a decade ago. :P

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Now are we to believe that the evil pod person, who can only move at 5 mph tops, was able to beat a car all the way back to the house?


Not to dismiss the possibility of it being Trumpy, but It could simply be a plot hole. Lack of arow? Another editing oversight. The movie doesn't exactly make a whole lot of sense in the first place. Could you really put such glaring oversights past them?

I mean you can look at it however you like. But since the movie is clearly an attempt to cash in on E.T. I can't see them wanting to make their cuddly alien protagonist into a killer as well. We don't even have a real reason for them to be on Earth, so I can't see the writers trying to make Trumpy bad just to be clever.

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bump

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