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how this could have avoided competing against 'Octopussy'

posted 13 years ago by frana43
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1. The rights to the film would be sold not to Albert R. Broccoli, prior to 1962,
but to co-writer Kevin McClory, enabling him to film it separately, some time.

2. In 1975, McClory would get this film made, and it would not compete with an official Bond movie,
being released between "The Man With The Golden Gun" (1974) and "The Spy Who Loved Me" (1977).

So, come 1983, "Octopussy" would have no competition from an unofficial Bond movie,
and would preferably have an actor other than Roger Moore play 007.

Then again, Timothy Dalton could have succeeded Moore in "For Your Eyes Only"
and not just made more films, but achieved more acclaim for his portrayal.

[–] jmgindiana 13 years ago

In 1983, Dalton would have been too young for the role, especially considering how both Connery and Moore played the role in their mature years.

And it would have been too soon to replace Moore. No matter how much you may dislike him (he was the Bond of my childhood, so I'm pretty fond of him), Moonraker was a huge success, and it would have been a tremendous mistake from the studio to switch him for an unknown.

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[–] wallacesawyer 13 years ago

I remember they discovered a lost script, WARHEAD, that was co-written by Connery and McClory that was apparently intended to be filmed in 1977.

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[–] grendelkhan 12 years ago

Hardly lost. It had been shopped around quite a bit and the title popped up periodically in Starlog's media columns. It essentially provided the starting point for the script here.

"Fortunately, Ah keep mah feathers numbered for just such an emergency!"

[–] TheSolarSailor 13 years ago

Except that Dalton would not have taken over from Moore. They had already chosen an American for the role before Moore returned at the last minute. Yes, actor James Brolin was already chosen to take over as Bond. It's right there in the DVD supplements. I still don't know what was going through Cubby's mind back then.

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[–] wallacesawyer 13 years ago

Yes, actor James Brolin was already chosen to take over as Bond. It's right there in the DVD supplements. I still don't know what was going through Cubby's mind back then.

I remember that. Don't have the good DVD with features, I saw the test footage James made online.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhkUWMJoccQ

Don't think Roger filmed a scene like this in the movie. Or it just slipped my mind.

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[–] jmgindiana 13 years ago

Wow, I had completely forgotten about Brolin. While I like the guy, he was completely miscast as Bond. He looked just like any other american action hero of the time.

[–] TheSolarSailor 13 years ago

Yep, no slight against Brolin at all, but he was simply wrong for the part. Again, what was going through Cubby's mind???

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[–] LuboLarsson 13 years ago

The scene Brolin is acting out in the screen test is taken from From Russia with Love.

[–] Mister_Pricklepants 12 years ago

Yep, no slight against Brolin at all, but he was simply wrong for the part. Again, what was going through Cubby's mind???

Cocaine?

An American James Bond is a big no-no. James Bond is British.

[–] wbalert 12 years ago

Whether it's an 'official' Bond film or not, NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN is far superior to the somnifacient OCTOPUSSY.

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