Were people stupid in 1983?


Were people so stupid in 1983 to accept this movie as anything but nonsense?

Just incredible!

How could anyone take this movie seriously?

Either that or I think it would be fair to say that the art of making movies has really advanced since.

By the way, I got the feeling Kim Basinger was really playing herself. I think she is probably truly *that* stupid!

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If you don't consider this serious, I wouldn't suggest watching any of the Moore films...

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@truthseeker, thanks for your vote of support. Finding it stupid as a kid says something about this movie!

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If we're judging old films from a 2012 perspective, I think Orson Welles missed a trick by not making Citizen Kane in colour and 3D.

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No, not judging based on 2012 standards, but judging on common sense.

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You don't actually think Citizen Kane should have been in color and 3D right? If you do you should probably delete your IMDB account and never watch a movie again.

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No Eddie, poor attempt at sarcasm I'm afraid. And it's colour.

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It's only "colour" due to your geographic location. In The United States, it's "color". Not sure why you had to waste everyone's time making corrections when either spelling is acceptable.

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Whose idea was it for the word "Lisp" to have an "S" in it?

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Colour is right solarsailor. Both countries speak the English Language, and we in England spell it with the 'u', and The Bible says everyone else must obey us.



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Yes, she is.

But I couldn't disagree more. It's my favorite Connery.

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Anyone who takes Bond movies seriously needs professional help.

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Wonder how many eldery ppl in the cinema said "Wait a sec, thats the same farking story like in Thunderball! What a rip-off"!

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Tell that to the Danny fans


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I really despise Never Say Never Again. Aside from lacking all of the staples that had come to define a 007 film, this film was just bad looking. Old Connery and young Basinger gives me the creeps. The music is atrocious. The action is sort of lame. The sets and sfx are on the cheap side. It's just generally unimpressive in every way. Well, not every way. Barbara Carrera is one of the few bright spots in this film. Once she explodes, there is nothing left and it drags terribly.

And I just have to mention the deadly video game face-off. I mean, really? That was so incredibly stupid and tried really hard to create suspense on such an absurd concept. Of course, the attempt at suspense resulted instead in laughter!

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Whose idea was it for the word "Lisp" to have an "S" in it?

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I originally watched it only for Carrera, and stop the disc when she's eliminated.

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What's incredible is that you're that upset about it lmao. I like the movie. Sorry pal

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People take the oddity of them making 2 Bond films in 1983 too seriously! On Bond boards people and fans are so much baffled and angry. After a decade of Moore Bonds and light comedy and fantasy adventures, I remember about half of the Bond lovers STILL thought a lot about Connery and missed him no matter what! Even if NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN is very much a Connery Fan Film, as the title suggests, more important as a Connery film than a Bondfilm, there were of course other factors bringing this film alive than the fan reason!

People are really hating it now, BUT in 1983, there was another response! Tired of Moore and all comedy, many longed for Bond with real acting, so NEVER shows an example of great acting from Connery (Massage scene) who always does things with his role no other Bond actor does, also, Brandauer and Carreras are worth watching alone! Of course its sad, with no Bond theme or great music (they could at least fixed a great score!) and a tiny finale that doesnt satify anyone: BUT many, including me, voted this film ABOVE Octopussy back in the 1983!

In retrospect, of course, Octopussy is a very well made, well produced Bond film, BUT I think, NEVER, although, quite dated, has the things Octopussy lacks. One thing though, NEVER does not really take itself seriously (again! Like Diamonds Are Forever!) Which is a huge mistake especially for younger fans. But it did satisfy an audience who knew this was a ONE time Bond, AND the very LAST time for Connery! The word NEVER in the title becomes both the meaning of Connery returning as Bond, as well as He is NEVER coming back again! Believe me, that brought a tear in many eyes when we left the theater! That is how much we cared about Connery, asn an actor, as a person and as an icon!

Imagine the shock in society when The Beatles announced their break-up! It was like your best friends or your parents separating, people who had followed you along all the way from the 1960´s to the 70´s! Something great wasnt there anymore. Then, imagine, they make an extra live performance ten years after the the break-up! Would we care if they didnt peformed as well as in their heydays? No! But that would certainly make people cry! Thats what NEVER is about I think!

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she can tango!



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Actually I think this is one of the better Bond films. The earlier Connery films have dated terribly and most of Moore's films were too cartoonish, apart from the first two (LALD and TMWTGG). Moore himself was about 005 and a half compared to Connery. The last couople of Brosnan films were pretty bad. As for a silly plot, is there anything more ridiculous than Elliot Carver starting WW3 just for TV ratings?

This had a good plot, admittedly as remake (and we never see those ever, do we???) and Brandauer was excellent as the lunatic arch-criminal. Pity about the roles by Algernon and M though, which spoilt it a little for me.

Bond films are usually nonsense. They're best taken as entertainment and not too seriously. I found this one as entertaining as most of them.

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They weren't stupid, but caught out a bit. You see in the US they had a big sell on the fact that Connery was back as Bond; over there he was still very popular in the role even though it had been years since he'd played him, they were all for his return. And the movie seems a bit American in flavour, so they lapped it up. Aspects of NSNA anticipate Arnie's Commando and True Lies.

In the UK, Connery's films seemed a loooooong time ago, and it came out around Xmas, a few months after its US release. Appetite wasn't so strong and in many cinemas it played second fiddle to the release of Jaws 3D of all things. But critics had spent most of the previous decade slagging off Moore as Bond, praising the memory of Connery, never thinking he'd return to the role. They couldn't easily turn around and slag off Connery after that without loss of face, so they gave him a free pass, praising the film when really it was a bit of a dog.

The young fans weren't mad about this film; no great stunts to look at and a leading man who needed a wig. Rubbish theme song. Same old routine nuclear warhead plot we'd seen many times before. And older fans didn't like the way it betrayed its brief; you couldn't take this seriously. The fans who liked it were those who hated Moore and felt that at least this was less openly absurd than many of his films.

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To be fair, Connery used a wig in all his bond movies!


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He was the only one the other four gents RM, GL, TD, & PB all have full heads of hair I don't know about little Danny

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Hear hear!

Well said!

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