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Did Mr. Fitz Royce really derseve to die?


I've always thought since the first time I saw this movie that his death was unnesseccary. He wasn't a bad guy or really that much in the way, as a matter of fact, he did do a very brave thing by saving that one girl's life. Not to mention how terrifying his death must have been, getting sucked up into the mouth of the shark and being crushed to death. Very disturbing, don't you think?

Anyone agree?

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yes, he deserved to die because of his cavilar escapades lol
he was silly using himself as live bait like that. but one thing i cant understand is why he wanted to kill sharks, if u remember kate saying he rammed the japanese whaler. thought his character changed a bit.

but i think he is jaws 3's quint, tho not as good.

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Hey, he did get it back into the pump, though it did escape ...and eat him, he did manage to confine it for awhile while Brody worked on the walkway.

Question: What is a Japanese whaler anyway? I never got that.

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A Japanese whaler is a whaling ship, that harpoons and kills whales.

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What the hell does "deserve" have to do with getting eaten by a shark?

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They could've miraculasly let him survived instead of being killed off. I thought Lea Thompson had a better chance of being killed than him.

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Why on earth would you think that? She was just some cute girl in a purple bikini, but Fitz got into the water with a 35-foot maneating shark ON PURPOSE. He cared more about getting good footage than his own safety, and that cost him his life. Arrogant bastards always die in movies, and he was clearly sign-posted to have the worst death in the movie the second he stepped out of that limo wearing that ridiculous hat. Also, the Great White Hunter-type always dies in these nature-run-amuck movies. Check out Alligator or Jurassic Park...or Jaws 1, for that matter.

Clearly, you need to see more crappy movies.

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He did save Lea Thompson eariler, you can't call that selfish or arrogant. I guess the scene just disturbs me. It's so creepy and sadistic. It's one of those scene in movies you have FAST FORWARD through or skip or change the channel on.

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It's hands down the best scene in the movie. Without this scene, I have no reason to watch the movie at all. And yeah, I don't think anyone earns the reward of getting killed by a monstrous fish. She just got hungry, man.

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I think it's the best scene in the movie too. It's very claustrophobic.

Anyway, seriously? Not every character who deserves to die dies in these movies and some decent peeps die as well.

If anything, I like that about it. It makes it more predictable. Anyway, he was a glory hog, but not necessarily a bad person. It can be presumed he was probably going to kill himself with the grenade, which shows a sense of bravery. Sure, he would've(and did) die anyway, but most humans would struggle till the end.

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Does anyone in any of these movies deserve to die? You take your average slasher film: do any of the teenagers deserve to die, just because they had sex? Every time I watch one of those movies, I always feel like it's some nerd's way of getting back at all the cool kids in high school who rejected him and/or tormented him.

Getting back to the Jaws franchise, did the girl swimmer at the beginning of the first movie deserve to die? Or the little boy later in the film? What about the water skier or her mother in the second movie? Did the diving instructor deserve an embolism? What about the various kids who get chomped toward the end of the movie?

As for Fitz Royce, he was so concerned about getting his "amazing" closeup footage of the shark that it killed him. If he had ditched the camera once he was in the pump, he could have pulled himself to safety with both hands. I remember thinking that the first time I saw the movie when I was 10. The only reason the shark was able to get him was because he slowed himself down by carrying that stupid camera!

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So claustrophobic that you can't tell what's going on.



Len Petersen - "It could be dirt. Something in the lens"
Chief Brody - "Lens my ass!"

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Yeh, it got to the point where he saw now way out so bravely tried to kill the shark before he was killed. I quite liked him as a character tho and often films will kill of hero characters to affect the audience emotionally.

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When did he save Lea Thompson in the film?

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He didn't that I'm aware of.

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I would definitely agree. His actions were, in the end, the result of his concern for the safety of the people trapped in the Undersea Kingdom. So, yes it was disturbing, and no, he didn't deserve to die.

With that you get the head, the tail, the whole damn thing!

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None of the victims in these movies really deserved to die, they're all just innocent people who get killed by a Monster Shark.

FitzRoyce didn't deserve to die anymore than the woman in the opening of Jaws 1.

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Fitzroyce went down in Glorious flames! He was indeed, an arrogant and vain man when we are first introduced to him but he changes throughout the film, primarily at the moment the baby shark dies on display. It seems to me he realizes the more valuable nature that Kay and Co. both practice and preach. The look on his face as he steps in to see what was going on says it all. And then Kay slaps it to him. "Go ahead. Photograph it".

His move to bait the mother into the pipe for the safety of others is a redeemable moment, and it does work. It has that whole "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one" thing going for it. It's a chilling scene too. He knew the risk, and he set out to do it and went out with dignity. I find that a pretty good arch on the writers part.

Actually, he and Kay have that "look" or "gaze" moment of understaning. His was when he sees the shark die. Her's is after he announces his voluntary effort to bait Mama shark. After the meeting is concluded, Kaye watches him walk on. The look she is giving is disbelief on two levels. First, who would even THINK to get into that pipe with a shark, let alone DO it? Second, maybe it's rather that she see's him in his different form, reconciling his change from the pompous sleazeball we saw earlier? Very insteresting choice made there.

So...NO he did NOT deserve to sie.

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^^chapeau to this

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Deserves got nuthin' to do with it.

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